Episode 103 features the sultry voice of David Cook, who you may know from his work on The Edge of The World Broadcast, but who hopes you’ll know him as a movie trailer voice down the road.
We discuss music and voice-over, comedy, entertainment, training and learning, inspiration, finding your sound, knowing your instrument, nuance and so much more…
Throughout the conversation, we discuss:
- The Edge of the World Broadcast
- “I don’t do voices”
- I started as a singer
- Growing up geek
- Good music is good music
- Perfect Pitch
- Living in a household of musicians
- East Coast vs. West Coast club scenes
- “I love listening to me”
- Nuance
- And much more
Mentioned and Helpful Links from This Episode
The Edge of the World Broadcast
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Agent Palmer
Previously on Agent palmer.com I recapped both of the 2023 tours to France and pick a favorite. Palmer’s trek continues with Star Trek three The Search for Spock and Kristen’s blog continues to be a culinary inspiration for me, as it should be for you. This is The Palmer Files episode 103, featuring the sultry voice of David Cook, who you may know from his work on the edge of the world broadcast, but who hopes you’ll one day know him as the movie trailer voice guy.
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Agent Palmer
We discuss music and voice over comedy, entertainment training and learning inspiration, finding your sound, knowing your instrument, nuance, and so much more. Are you ready? Let’s do the show!
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Agent Palmer
Hello and welcome to The Palmer Files. I’m your host, Jason Stershic, also known as Agent Palmer. And on this 103rd episode is the silky smooth, crooning voice of David Cook. Perhaps you heard his work on the edge of the world broadcast, where his voice is unforgettable, but perhaps you just don’t know his voice yet. I’ll change that by being the one to introduce him to you.
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Agent Palmer
If you’re not familiar because his voice is one that you won’t soon forget, he’s here to tell his tale to talk to me about music and comedy, how he went from listening to records in his grandmother’s closet, to singing in clubs, to recording his voice for others and loving it. He is his own favorite singer and his story is worth sticking around for.
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Agent Palmer
Plus having perfect pitch, not being trained, wanting to voice movie trailers, knowing your voice and nuance. All of that, plus a whole lot more is coming your way shortly. But first, remember that if you want to discuss this episode as you listen or afterwards, you can find all contact information for David and myself in the show notes. You can find more information about David’s work in the show notes as well.
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Agent Palmer
Where there are links to his YouTube and SoundCloud, among others, and you’ll find a link to the project that brought us together the edge of the world broadcast. Don’t forget, you can see all of my writings and rantings on Jim palmer.com. And of course, email can be sent to the Palmer files at gmail.com. So without further ado, let’s get into it.
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Agent Palmer
David, you and I shared, a cast credits in the edge of the world broadcast, though I think this is the first time we’ve ever really met each other. And I just have to say, because I’m not going to give spoilers away, but, like.
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David Cook
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Agent Palmer
You might have had the sexiest villain voice I’ve heard for very long time, sir.
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David Cook
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David Cook
I love that. I love it.
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Agent Palmer
Also, I.
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David Cook
Like playing.
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David Cook
Villains.
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Agent Palmer
Okay, you like playing Bill, but I gotta say, like, you’re talking to the one guy in the cast. When? Because when Joel approached me, he’s like, do you want to do a B in this thing? And I was like, I want to warn you right now, I don’t do voices you can get me. Like, if you’re casting me to play my voice as any other character, I can do that.
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Agent Palmer
Yeah. I can’t do voices like, it’s just not a thing I do.
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David Cook
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Agent Palmer
You but you, you, it feels like you, you got into character and like you do voices and stuff like I’m kind of jealous at the talent pool. You got.
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David Cook
But you know what I actually don’t do voices. What that is, is a variation of my voice okay. I mean, because for me, I’m a singer. I started out as a jazz vocalist. Okay? That is the thing I do. I did that for a living for a number of years. So just the different nuances of, I mean, of, of the voice, that’s just something I’m into.
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David Cook
And the fact that, as a kid, there’s a guy I grew up listening to and I don’t know if this is going to fall into one of your questions at some point, but when I was growing up, I was very, very influenced by two people. Okay. I was very influenced by a man named Adolph Caesar. Oh, no, you may not.
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David Cook
You may not have heard that name because he never gets to do that. He’s deserved, as far as a voiceover is concerned.
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David Cook
Okay.
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David Cook
But he was the voice of the 70s. All the blaxploitation, all the kung fu, karate movies, all of that, or even some of the horror movies.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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David Cook
The trailers. It was his voice that you heard.
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Agent Palmer
So I’ve no. So I may not know the name, but I would definitely know the voice.
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David Cook
Yeah, but you’ve heard the voice. Okay. Exactly. All right. I mean, one of the most famous that that I try to get people to remember. Remember his voice from his, Dawn of the dead.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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David Cook
Which is a great trailer is a great trailer, but that’s the voice, okay? That that amazing voice. But, I mean, he was one. And then the other is also a voiceover guy who is no and.
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David Cook
Still.
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David Cook
Doesn’t get the shine that he’s deserved is, Percy Rodriguez. And that voice you’ve heard many times, though, you don’t know his name.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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David Cook
That was if you’ve seen the jaws trailer. Yeah. If you’ve seen the trailer to, The Exorcist, which is one of his most famous. Okay, that is Percy Rodriguez, one of the most amazing voices ever.
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Agent Palmer
All right, so you I, I did a little homework, right? I saw I saw your SoundCloud, and I know you’ve done some voiceover, but you said you started in jazz, and obviously you just need to prolific. If even if we don’t know them, like we know their voice is prolific voice. Yeah. So like what? What was the you know, let’s go back ten year old you.
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Agent Palmer
Yeah. Right. Did you want to be a singer. Did you want to do it. Like, what did you want to do?
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David Cook
I wanted to be a singer, okay? My dad, my my father was a very, also very prolific. But he was he was a, very famous blues legend. He’s Bo Diddley junior, happened to be one of his 21 children.
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David Cook
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David Cook
He was a wonderful man. Just kind of, you know, he couldn’t stay put. But, the thing is, when I was a child, that’s what I mean. That was it. I wanted to grow up to be a singer like my dad. Okay. But, so. But the the voice stuff, though, like I said, I don’t do voices like most people, when they think of voice over, they think of, like, you know, like Mel Blanc.
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David Cook
You know, the guy that did all the Disney that did Disney, but all the the one, you know, Mary Medley?
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Agent Palmer
Yeah. He did all the lunatics. Funny. Like all of that stuff.
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David Cook
Yeah, yeah, all of them. That that that that’s not what I do. And there’s like, only one of him and he was amazing. Yeah. If you add him, you didn’t need anybody else. But, so for me, it started with the singing, but, you know, I grew up, I’m like the classic nerd. I grew up with Star Trek, and I’m a I’m a serious Trekker.
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David Cook
Star Wars and comic books. I actually still collect comic books.
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Agent Palmer
I’m I’m so I, I want to just say.
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David Cook
I’m.
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Agent Palmer
I’m, I’m towards the end of season as we record this, towards the end of season five of Next Gen, I was never a Trek person, and I started at the beginning. So, you are catching me when I have watched all of the original series, all the original series movies, the animated series up through season five, next gen.
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Agent Palmer
And it’s because it permeated the geek culture space so much that I was like, I need to know more about that. Like, I, I know things, but I know so so I’m, I’m, I’m catching up on that. And obviously I kind of grew up Star Wars, but like, you know, that was that was my thing. But like comic books, I was on the fringe of like I always.
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David Cook
Like, wow.
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Agent Palmer
It was I was a reader, don’t get me wrong. And I have had a collection and stuff. I yeah, I don’t know how I skipped it, but I went from like, comic books, like maybe like this, that and the other like, like one offs. And if not reading series. Yeah, I just jumped right into heavy metal. I don’t like the magazine.
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Agent Palmer
Yeah. Like, I, I don’t know.
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David Cook
I used to collect that as well.
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Agent Palmer
So it was, it was a, it’s a weird jump by the way. Like because usually people like.
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David Cook
Yeah, yeah.
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Agent Palmer
But so I’m there with you but like.
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David Cook
Yeah, yeah.
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Agent Palmer
So there’s, there’s all the geek stuff. And then obviously music is huge. Music is important. Is it, is it all music or is it very much like, you know, jazz like, you know, like what.
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David Cook
It, it’s it’s all actually all music because I mean, good music is good music and I like different, you know, I like, put it this way, I like good music. Okay. But from, from a performance perspective, even though I’ve done so much because I was a session performer as well. So I’ve sang background for people that did different types of music, whether it was rock, whether it was, country.
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David Cook
Okay.
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David Cook
Gospel, blues. I don’t the, the whole gamut of music. So good music I love but performance wise from I mean, what, what resonates internally for me. Yeah, is jazz because that’s when I was a kid. I grew up in a very, very, religious home. I, I was raised by my grandmother. Okay. And she was she would not allow secular music in the house, but she had a vast collection of secular music records that she had hidden in a closet.
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David Cook
Well, I discovered this collection that is from, you know, her past. And I had a record player. I would play it, I would sneak in the closet and listen to it. And then one day she saw the cord sticking out of the closet. Open the door. And I’m sitting in there listening. And so she snatched the cord and that day I realized that if you still spin the record, even though it’s not plugged up, you can still hear it.
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David Cook
So.
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David Cook
So I literally ended up doing that spinning. And I think that was one of the things, the main things trained my ear because as far as singing and music goes, I have perfect pitch. But I’m sure that came from me sitting in that closet listening to records being spun without, you know, amplification.
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Agent Palmer
What was your I mean, what were the ones that spoke to you from from her, I guess, from her collection before you even get to your own.
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David Cook
Sam Cooke is one major person and he’s not necessarily jazz, but he was influenced by Nat King Cole. Yeah. Who was a standard singer and that’s what he even though he’s known for, you know, the, the really what they consider soul stuff. But he really wanted to be like Nat King Cole. He wanted to be a standard singer.
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David Cook
I’m also related to him, by the way. So there’s a connection there. That’s my grandmother’s nephew. But, I, he was one of the main ones. I listened to him. Jackie Wilson, Johnny Hartman, another person that most people probably don’t know his name, but they’ve heard his voice if they’ve ever seen the movie. Bridges of Madison County.
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David Cook
Yeah. He’s that that that baritone voice. That’s that’s crooning in the background, man. So that’s. And he never got his due. He was he got a posthumous, Grammy, which I thought was kind of, you know, like, wow, if appreciate me while I’m here.
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David Cook
Yeah, yeah.
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David Cook
But yeah, that’s so that those that resonate, you know, that really, really got got to me. And I said, wow, that’s what I want to do. That that’s I want to sing. And Johnny Mathis is another that I was very much influenced by that you should try to imitate. So so it was like, yeah, that’s where it started for me.
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David Cook
Okay. But once again, it’s the listening thing because, for me, voiceover is just a natural progression. And the fact that I approach it from that perspective, as far as acting is concerned, I’ve never had any formal acting lessons. And I like this. They’re actors that I sit in. I like to say that they’re my actual,
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David Cook
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Agent Palmer
You teachers.
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David Cook
Acting teachers.
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David Cook
Yeah, but.
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David Cook
But on stage, you have to perform the song in a way that brings it to life for people. So one of the major things I used to get, one of the compliments, one of the greatest compliments, I think a a performer can get. And I used to get it is I’d sing a song that was probably written before I was even born, and a person would come up to me and go, wow, did you write that?
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David Cook
That was amazing. And I go, no, that was written before I was born. But I really appreciate that. For me, that meant that it it it it it affected them in a way that made them think that it was something that I had written, because it came, I guess, from a such a personal place to them.
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David Cook
So that’s the process I use in acting.
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Agent Palmer
So you are a nobody can see this, but you are moving like you are active when we’re just talking. So like.
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David Cook
Artemis. Yeah.
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Agent Palmer
Is that how you perform? Like on stage? Are you, I mean.
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David Cook
Oh, yeah.
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Agent Palmer
Because the way I like to think of it is you’re either Sinatra who would like, kind of sway a little.
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David Cook
Bit.
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Agent Palmer
Or like, you’re Sammy and, like, you’re all over the place, right? Because Dino was.
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David Cook
Is one of my favorite people. Okay. Yes. Sammy Davis is one of my. Oh, man. That’s one of my. Honestly, in my opinion, yeah, he’s pretty much the greatest entertainer that ever lived. He did it all. Michael Jackson, the most known, but Sammy Davis, the greatest. But I mean, across the board, he did impersonations. He could sing, he could dance, he could act.
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David Cook
And he was a multi-instrumentalist. I mean, when you went to see his show, you got everything.
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Agent Palmer
I just. I just like the fact that I, At the height of the pandemic, I started rewatching Laugh-In.
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David Cook
And, like, I love those.
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Agent Palmer
He he comes on and steals that. Like, I know here comes the judge became like a meme for that show before memes were a thing. But he comes on with these other talented people and literally, it’s like when SNL would have that person that would just be like, well, I didn’t see any cast members this week. It’s like, well, they were there.
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Agent Palmer
You just didn’t know. It was like series on that show. It’s just it’s the Sammy hour, like it’s show.
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David Cook
Yeah.
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Agent Palmer
And it’s I think the thing about it for me is it’s he it looks so effortless like he does.
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David Cook
Indeed. Indeed it.
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Agent Palmer
Should. And that’s the I think that’s the. Yeah. That’s the thing. Right. Like when you. Yeah when they don’t see you sweat you’re like oh what why why why why am I even trying. Like this is ridiculous. That’s not fair at all.
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David Cook
Yeah. That is amazing. That is amazing. But you’re absolutely right. You’re absolutely right. I mean, he had the most I mean, his comedic timing was amazing. It’s he he was just amazing.
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Agent Palmer
And and and by the way, we talk about underrated like his, his part in the original Ocean’s 11. Like, no one talks about it.
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David Cook
But like, yeah, they don’t.
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Agent Palmer
It. And I think they don’t talk about it because it, it, it is a minor part. But like.
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David Cook
Yeah.
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Agent Palmer
Anytime he’s on stage you can not take your eyes off of him.
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David Cook
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David Cook
That I mean his scene, his scene and his and and the song. Yeah. Just that that section stands out. I mean, I remember that most don’t get me wrong, I love the film, one of my favorites, but his scene stands out. Yeah, it stands out. It’s crazy. You walk away, go. You go 11. Yeah.
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Agent Palmer
So so I want to I did you, did you go to school for any of this or was it just like, I’m just going to get on a stage and learn.
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David Cook
Now from from the music perspective? Yeah. It wasn’t necessarily formal training. Okay. It was, the more so. I grew up, I grew up in the church, and there was, gentleman who his name was Professor Leon Lumpkin, an amazing gentleman, totally amazing. He saw me one day and, actually, he heard me and and wanted me to join the choir, but I wasn’t old enough yet.
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David Cook
I wasn’t old enough yet. I mean, I was a little kid, was not old enough, but he made he made a, he broke a rule, okay, to allow me to be in it when I wasn’t quite old enough yet. And that was where it started. And it for me, it was just his tutelage. By virtue of the fact that there was so much that he he he taught me, you know, musically.
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David Cook
Now, did he teach you kind.
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Agent Palmer
Of like he did he teach you how to read music to.
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David Cook
No, no. Okay. No, it wasn’t like that. It was basically it was more. So, here’s a song.
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David Cook
He would teach me the song, but it wasn’t from the standpoint of freedom, because I can’t read music. I can sight read, okay. Which is I can look at the notes and know where to go in that, because I have such a great ear. I can hear a song one time and I learn it, but I’m no, I, I’m not.
00:18:15:53 – 00:18:21:52
David Cook
Trained in that sense of music theory and all that stuff. Now I no, it’s just in me.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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David Cook
I.
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Agent Palmer
I, I have a great respect for that because I, the first instrument I ever picked up was, a four string bass and.
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David Cook
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Agent Palmer
I quickly joined a classic rock cover band, and the drummer’s older brother was a bassist who was going to be going to Juilliard. And I was like, well, he can teach me stuff. But he was going to Juilliard for jazz bass. And so like, wow, he was so bored teaching me that I was like, we don’t have to do this anymore.
00:19:00:50 – 00:19:34:29
Agent Palmer
Because like, I would be like, Will you show me what? Like, like show me what you did to like for your piece? Because everybody knows, like you go to those schools, you got to like, do, like auditions and stuff. And he starts playing around on what I think of as like, now look, don’t get me wrong, the basis that influenced me are great bassists like Duff is an amazing musician and Geddy Lee can, but but all I’m saying is this guy on a fretless four string jazz bass and I was like, wow, I don’t get it.
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Agent Palmer
Like, I’m just I’m not, I’m I’m not programed for this. I’m going to go back to the four four time signature, and that’s where I’m going to retire bad like I’ve done, like I can’t. So like I, I get it and I like I love music, but yeah, don’t ask me to just go off the cuff. I cannot, I can’t, I like I cannot fathom that.
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Agent Palmer
And I don’t have perfect pitch. The only thing I have, what I have, I have I know that’s not right. Pitch I can’t like.
00:20:07:11 – 00:20:08:01
David Cook
You know. Yeah, yeah.
00:20:08:10 – 00:20:26:17
Agent Palmer
I won’t play it necessarily right the first time but I that that’s rough. That’s, that’s, But so obviously you got an education in the choir because obviously like, yeah, yeah. You’re learning, you know, you’re learning songs constantly.
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David Cook
Oh yeah.
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Agent Palmer
Yeah. So when from there do you start singing the contempt, when do you sing the stuff that you weren’t supposed to be listening to?
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David Cook
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David Cook
That that began with me. Ended up going to the clubs and getting into clubs that I wasn’t old enough to get into. Okay. But once again, you carry yourself a certain way, you don’t act silly and then were willing and let. Yeah. And because of the fact that most of the time I’d be with the musicians, I’d be with the, the people that were performing, I could get.
00:21:01:24 – 00:21:05:45
Agent Palmer
In. All right. So hold on. You’re you’re are you a baritone?
00:21:05:50 – 00:21:07:13
David Cook
I’m a tenor. Baritone.
00:21:07:13 – 00:21:16:38
Agent Palmer
Okay, so I have to ask, when you were too young to be in these clubs, were you just a straight tenor or were you always a tenor? Baritone?
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David Cook
I was a I was a tenor.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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David Cook
But I was still able to access my lower registers.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
00:21:25:41 – 00:21:41:24
David Cook
I mean, it it. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I could hit a high C in my natural, so I mean, as an adult, I mean, so it’s, it’s just my, Wow. I’m trying to think of ways looks that it doesn’t sound, like I’m toot my own horn.
00:21:41:34 – 00:22:00:12
Agent Palmer
All I’m saying is if if you it’s it’s it’s kind of like, What? It’s the stories I’ve always heard about, like, Kenny Wayne Shepard, who was like ten when he would just go into clubs. If you can play there, it don’t matter. It doesn’t matter. They would let you in. And if you can sing, they’ll let you in.
00:22:00:12 – 00:22:01:13
Agent Palmer
Like, that’s just.
00:22:01:15 – 00:22:02:24
David Cook
Let you in.
00:22:02:29 – 00:22:19:52
Agent Palmer
How it works. And especially if you’re a tenor like, oh or a baritone, you’re like, yeah, if you can go low. I think it’s kind of like being a left handed pitcher in baseball. It’s like, you don’t have to be as good as the righties. You’re a lefty. We’ll let you in, right? Give you a little back. Yeah.
00:22:19:54 – 00:22:28:59
Agent Palmer
I feel like that’s that’s kind of cool. Now geographically, where are you when you’re getting into these clubs?
00:22:29:04 – 00:22:43:18
David Cook
Now this was in Newark, new Jersey, okay. I lived on the East Coast then. Yeah, Newark, new Jersey. I was born in Hempstead, Long Island, but I grew up in Newark, new Jersey. I actually grew up in the same building that Jerry Lewis grew up in. Wow. I mean, he never came to visit.
00:22:43:18 – 00:22:45:48
David Cook
But, you know that,
00:22:45:53 – 00:22:49:19
David Cook
No. But that. Yeah, actually, it was it was the same building he grew up in.
00:22:49:25 – 00:22:50:26
David Cook
Okay.
00:22:50:31 – 00:23:00:50
Agent Palmer
And there were some I mean, I don’t know if Newark really. I mean, I’m on the East Coast. I don’t, I don’t really know Newark, like, but there were clubs, like there were, were there good clubs, I mean.
00:23:00:50 – 00:23:17:57
David Cook
Oh yeah. Okay. Oh yeah. I mean yeah, yeah. There was some classic places. I mean, Newark used to be a really, really happening place. I mean, but even from the standpoint of music, I mean, some of it, a lot of it, I’m saying some of it, a lot of it was prior to me, but it was a hotbed for music.
00:23:17:57 – 00:23:37:38
David Cook
I mean, that’s where Sarah Vaughan came from. Okay. From Newark, New Jersey. So, I mean, who’s one of the greatest vocalists that ever lived, in my opinion. She’s one of my favorite singers, by the way. But in my opinion, she’s one of the greatest vocalists that ever lived. And she came from Newark, new Jersey. Nice. And of course, Sinatra was from Jersey as well.
00:23:37:38 – 00:23:40:24
Agent Palmer
Yes, he was.
00:23:40:29 – 00:23:46:58
David Cook
And of course, Whitney Houston won another one of the greatest vocalists that ever lived came from Newark, new Jersey.
00:23:47:03 – 00:23:58:16
Agent Palmer
All right. So when you’re in these clubs, what are you I don’t want to ask. Like, what’s popular? What did what were you most excited to be singing?
00:23:58:21 – 00:24:19:55
David Cook
I was just excited to be singing because honestly, I wasn’t singing the kind of stuff that I, that I listened to. I was, it was more so R&B. Okay. I mean, I love R&B, but like I said, the being a jazz crooner was in my heart. But of course, growing up in Newark and, you know, you got to you got your R&B singers, okay?
00:24:19:55 – 00:24:35:20
David Cook
So you got your R&B bands, and that’s who I would be with. So it was a bunch of R&B stuff, everything from Earth, Wind and Fire to, Luther Vandross to, I mean, you know, the whole thing. If it was if it was R&B, we were doing it.
00:24:35:25 – 00:24:41:43
Agent Palmer
Yeah. Did you did you want to write or were you? I mean, because you already mentioned that, like, you did some session.
00:24:41:43 – 00:25:05:06
David Cook
Stuff like, yeah, I, I’ve attempted I’ve attempted writing and I think I’m pretty good at it. Okay. It’s not something but once again, because of the type of music that I like and the type of singer I wanted to be, they sang all the standards. I mean, they were singing other people’s stuff. Yeah. So, you know, you know it.
00:25:05:07 – 00:25:08:51
David Cook
I don’t think Sammy wrote one song, but.
00:25:08:55 – 00:25:09:39
David Cook
Yeah.
00:25:09:44 – 00:25:32:23
David Cook
But but from the so from that standpoint, that wasn’t as important. But once again, you hanging around these R&B singers and these R&B musicians, these R&B acts and, and they started incorporating their own original stuff. So then you want to do it and then pursuing music that you kind of want to establish yourself and write your own tune.
00:25:32:23 – 00:25:36:38
David Cook
So I do have some tunes that I’ve written that I happen to love.
00:25:36:42 – 00:26:00:14
Agent Palmer
Nice. I mean, do you still write? I mean, because that’s the thing where like, I again, the bass player in me, I moved to guitar, you know, when you’re when you’re 15 and then you’re doing that stuff, you’re like, oh, I can, I want to try and write stuff, but like, I’m, I’m, I’m still a writer, but I, you won’t catch me writing songs anymore that I, I think I have officially closed the chapter on that.
00:26:00:16 – 00:26:01:58
David Cook
Closed the chapter that. But I.
00:26:01:58 – 00:26:04:51
Agent Palmer
Hear you. Do you still, you know.
00:26:04:56 – 00:26:25:29
David Cook
Still I still try to. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah I still try to. And and the fact that I live in a house full of artists like all my children and they’re all grown and we we’re we’re a house full of artistic people and they’re creators. So they produce and they write and perform all their own stuff.
00:26:25:33 – 00:26:36:58
David Cook
So that influences me in a way that because I’m not doing it the way I was doing it, I get influenced by them. And I get in in the lab and I go, man, I want to write a song because.
00:26:36:58 – 00:26:38:06
David Cook
I’m.
00:26:38:10 – 00:26:48:33
David Cook
Because in creating stuff on a daily basis. So it’s like, man, I guess I need to write a song, but it does. It doesn’t flow as easily now as it did then.
00:26:48:33 – 00:26:57:48
Agent Palmer
Okay. What what, what what instruments aside from your voice, which is very important to you. Like, what other instruments have you picked up along the way were that.
00:26:57:54 – 00:27:20:13
David Cook
Do you know what? I haven’t picked up one. Just I only I only play the first instrument, the voice. Okay, but, no, I didn’t. Now, my dad. Phenomenal guitarist. I mean, it I mean, when I say phenomenal, I mean truly amazing. There’s some videos on YouTube of him performing, he does stuff that I’ve never seen before.
00:27:20:13 – 00:27:37:06
David Cook
I mean, he does the, you know, the, the Hendrix stuff of playing with his teeth and playing with his tongue. But he does something I’ve never seen before. He actually blows on the strings. Wow. He was. Oh. Or he did. He were blowing the strings in the pickups, I guess, you know, but it was amazing. It was amazing.
00:27:37:06 – 00:27:39:34
David Cook
I’ve never seen anybody else do that.
00:27:39:39 – 00:27:41:09
David Cook
So,
00:27:41:14 – 00:27:53:55
David Cook
But I never I wanted to, which was interesting growing up, my grandmother was when she was raising me, she would buy me instruments. She would buy me guitars. I remember she bought me these congas.
00:27:54:00 – 00:27:54:23
David Cook
Okay.
00:27:54:25 – 00:28:12:02
David Cook
The only thing she wouldn’t do is get me lessons. Because, you know, my father being who he was. And I didn’t grow up knowing him. And I met him after I was married with children. When I met him for the actually met him for the first time. And and he’s a he was a phenomenal person and I loved him.
00:28:12:02 – 00:28:22:05
David Cook
We developed a great relationship and my children got to got to know him before he passed away. But the interesting thing is that I guess he assumed it was by osmosis.
00:28:22:10 – 00:28:23:51
David Cook
That,
00:28:23:56 – 00:28:50:17
David Cook
That had that ability. It was it was in her mind. I could sing, he could sing, he played guitar. Then obviously I should be able to play guitar too. So I remember her putting away money to buy guitars for me. But I couldn’t play them, you know, I would strum them and, you know, and try to, but it never, you know, I, I never, developed, an ability.
00:28:50:19 – 00:29:13:21
Agent Palmer
Somebody said you, you needed one person to just be like, hey, remember Richie Havens at Woodstock with the open tuning and one thumb? That’s what you need to do, my man. Because, like, because because I, I grew up in a household like, where, my parents, were influenced me heavily in, like, that 60s, 70s music when I was growing up.
00:29:13:21 – 00:29:36:46
Agent Palmer
Yeah. And so like, even before I, I watched Woodstock even, like, before I even picked up a guitar. So, like, when I picked it up. Yeah, I’m thinking of, like, Richie, like, now my hands I I’m, I’m, I’m a teenage. My hands are like small. But all I keep thinking this. Well, this guy went up on Woodstock and laid one finger across the fretboard and he.
00:29:36:55 – 00:29:37:30
David Cook
Was.
00:29:37:34 – 00:29:51:54
Agent Palmer
Like, come on, like that woman. How hard could it be? It’s like, all right, well, maybe not really, but you got to learn. Yeah. You know, that’s that’s a, that’s an open tuning. You can’t just do that. But like I don’t know man. It’s it’s something to think about. Just figure out that open to.
00:29:51:56 – 00:30:19:10
David Cook
Yeah I mean I’m amazed by it. Like my sons they’re and they, they play and play incredibly well though they’ve never had lessons okay. They’re the extent of their lessons. Was my father teaching them chord, you know, teaching them chords. That was it. But they obviously it was so important mentally emotionally for them with him no longer being here they retained it.
00:30:19:25 – 00:30:27:05
David Cook
Oh wow. So now they, they they’re they’re they’re phenomenal musicians and artists and creators. It’s amazing.
00:30:27:05 – 00:30:32:02
Agent Palmer
Well I mean you so you, you got your house band then when you go do your next album.
00:30:32:02 – 00:30:34:57
David Cook
Right.
00:30:35:02 – 00:31:04:29
David Cook
One day, you know what? Which that’s interesting because it’s all a different type of music. I mean, they they have their own genres that they do. But for me, because I used to, I used to perform for a living. That stopped when I moved out to California. And I’ll tell you why. When we came here to visit, I met all these phenomenal musicians and and I went and, the baked potato, it’s called very famous place in California and in L.A..
00:31:04:40 – 00:31:11:32
David Cook
I went there and I performed. I did a tune just jamming with them. They were blown away to the point they said, if you lived.
00:31:11:32 – 00:31:13:45
David Cook
Here, man, you would get.
00:31:13:45 – 00:31:14:21
David Cook
So many.
00:31:14:21 – 00:31:16:45
David Cook
Gigs and so much blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:31:16:45 – 00:31:19:00
David Cook
And I was like, wow, that’s cool. And then.
00:31:19:00 – 00:31:20:16
David Cook
We,
00:31:20:20 – 00:31:35:08
David Cook
Then we decided to move out here. I moved out here and those guys were nowhere to be found. I mean, they’re either on tour. They’re so busy, they can’t commit. They didn’t know, you know, is literally so it was like, wow.
00:31:35:12 – 00:31:35:56
David Cook
00:31:36:01 – 00:31:59:24
David Cook
But then the musicians, I would find, that, I mean, I put out the thing I any guys that played for me met some really nice people, but they couldn’t play. I mean, literally, they could not play. They had instruments and all the stuff that goes with it. But he couldn’t play. And then the other group, the, musicians I would meet, were like, what they call these hired guns.
00:31:59:29 – 00:32:16:49
David Cook
It was just all it was all they cared about was how much they would get paid for the gig. Yeah. That’s it. I mean, so it was like, give me a set list. How much are we getting paid for the gig? That’s it. Which also let me know that there were instances if I had booked a gig and they got a higher paying gig, they were not going to show up.
00:32:16:54 – 00:32:37:56
Agent Palmer
It’s so like, this is the all the part of like of like, like because, you know, nobody talks about this, right? Like you’re either in a band and you make it and if you make it or if you, you know, if you’re a name like I, I think Sinatra is, is not part of this. But like, I feel like the Gwen Stefani is a good example, right?
00:32:37:56 – 00:32:45:33
Agent Palmer
Because she could go from No Doubt and become a big enough name on her own to then go get the hired session people. She’s not.
00:32:45:35 – 00:32:46:12
David Cook
Exactly.
00:32:46:16 – 00:32:55:32
Agent Palmer
You just going out to California to be like, who do I get? I don’t I can get you, I can make you a sandwich. Like, what do you want from me?
00:32:55:36 – 00:32:57:10
David Cook
Yeah, exactly. And that was.
00:32:57:10 – 00:33:26:42
David Cook
You know, that was an interesting thing because the my band that I play with on the East Coast, they were all older. Gentleman when I say older, I mean these guys were in it as well at that time. Some of them were in their 60s but 60s, 70s and 80s. So I mean, a lot of them had been around when some of this stuff was being created and they, you know, accepted me as the lead singer, which branched off to me being in a couple of other groups and one of them being my own David Cook Trio.
00:33:26:47 – 00:33:47:04
David Cook
But the interesting thing, a lot of them, some of them had passed away. Maybe 1 or 2 of them might be still alive, which is really sad. But, so, you know, coming out here, being with the caliber of musicians that I had been with, I mean, these these guys could play. And then coming out here and meeting guys, they go, yeah, I play happily and can’t.
00:33:47:15 – 00:33:51:05
David Cook
And then meeting the other guys who can play, but you can’t trust them.
00:33:51:16 – 00:33:52:23
David Cook
I mean.
00:33:52:28 – 00:34:14:34
David Cook
It’s like, can I? It’s like I have the act. Can we build the act? Once I build the act, then we can book the gigs and they’re like, well, how much are you paying for rehearsals? Like, What? Wait, wait a minute. I’m. I’m renting the rehearsal space. I just told you this situation and you asking me how much rehearsals will pay, like, dude, come.
00:34:14:39 – 00:34:36:08
David Cook
So. Yeah, that’s been that’s been my, dilemma with that. So. But what’s interesting, it transitioned into what I’m doing now, because what I was, was, my regular job other than doing music. But since moving out here, I trained telemarketers. So some of the people that you might get the harassing calls from, I train. No, no, no, I’m just kidding.
00:34:36:08 – 00:34:45:20
David Cook
No, no, it wasn’t like that. But I did train telemarketers for a company. They sold products, and it was a business to business. Business?
00:34:45:20 – 00:34:46:02
Agent Palmer
Okay. Business.
00:34:46:02 – 00:35:19:47
David Cook
The business business. There you go. But, so I would trade them. So when the pandemic happened, I was here at home and I had done some had recorded some stuff in the past for people and I thought it sounded pretty good, you know, speaking wise. And, what was interesting, one of the first things I did, and this was on the East Coast, that let me know that, hey, this this is interesting was, it was, a woman that did a rodeo show where she had this whole show where she did a dramatization with her horse.
00:35:19:52 – 00:35:39:55
David Cook
Her horse was that well trained, but it was a it was about her being in the desert. And the horse, but the whole it was really cool. But what she would do is she would normally have the guys at the rodeo. They had the rodeo announcers doing it that would butcher the beauty of what what was written, you know, the narration and everything and the performance.
00:35:39:55 – 00:36:01:19
David Cook
So she came to me and said, could I do it? And I recorded it. I added music, the whole sound effects, the whole night. It worked. And I was like, wow, this is pretty cool. I didn’t think about it again when we moved out here and like I said, the pandemic happened. I started thinking about it again, like, wow, maybe I can record something and do some.
00:36:01:33 – 00:36:08:12
David Cook
So I got on. I went to the site. It’s a it was a how do you said my wife gets on me for saying.
00:36:08:12 – 00:36:09:15
Agent Palmer
It is if you read.
00:36:09:15 – 00:36:09:28
David Cook
It.
00:36:09:39 – 00:36:10:38
Agent Palmer
Oh read it, read it.
00:36:10:38 – 00:36:20:50
David Cook
No, no, read it, read it. See I go ribbit, ribbit, ribbit. But read it. So they had something called record This for free. And I was like, okay.
00:36:20:55 – 00:36:21:53
David Cook
So they would.
00:36:21:58 – 00:36:44:00
David Cook
There was a couple of things on there that interest me and I did it and they loved it. And one person I did something for, somebody heard it. And then they asked, can, well, can I give them your contact info? It’s like, yeah, sure. Well, they gave him my contact info. They got in contact with me and it turned into a paying gig.
00:36:44:05 – 00:37:02:13
David Cook
Then that opened the door to what was a I mean, it snowballed one thing after the other started happening, then I found this other site because I don’t like to pay to play sites. I don’t even like that. That’s another thing. Let me tell you quickly. I’m coming out here. All the clubs out here, it’s a pay to play thing.
00:37:02:18 – 00:37:25:34
David Cook
I never heard of that. Coming from the East coast, I was used to people booking their tickets or or booking their, talent arrangements. Yeah, but around the fact that I was going to be there. No, I mean, you like at the clubs there. Oh, yeah. The restaurants. Yeah. I had standing gigs there. People would, would, book around the days that I was there.
00:37:25:39 – 00:37:44:08
David Cook
So I didn’t know what it was like to have to go around selling tickets to get to fill the place up to, you know, to be able to perform that. I had never done that before. So. So I come out here and they’re like, oh, yeah, that this band here, they play for their meal. I’m like, play for your meal.
00:37:44:08 – 00:37:45:24
David Cook
Are you kidding me?
00:37:45:29 – 00:37:49:11
Agent Palmer
It takes you back 50 years. They had like.
00:37:49:16 – 00:37:50:58
David Cook
Yeah, I’m like, I’m liking.
00:37:51:04 – 00:38:09:21
David Cook
It. But then it was like a the whole. And I’m like, wow, this is so crazy that that was the predominant vibe though, that these club owners were like, yeah, come play here. You know, you you sell tickets and you get like, wow, I’ve never, never, never seen that before. But I.
00:38:09:25 – 00:38:12:07
David Cook
Mean.
00:38:12:11 – 00:38:31:38
David Cook
But the whole thing is that I, I, went to the site and I liked the site and it wasn’t one of those pay to play because they have that invoice over to where you pay them and they, they, you know, to book. But I went to the site and they had a bunch of stuff and I and I went out for it and I started getting all this work and it was paid work.
00:38:31:38 – 00:38:46:31
David Cook
And I was like, this is cool. So but from that, then I started having regular clients that would come back to me all the time, and it just snowballed. And I’ve been doing it now ever since, since the pandemic is it just.
00:38:46:36 – 00:38:53:42
Agent Palmer
Is is it something where like do you want to go to the next, do you want to be doing trailers like is that.
00:38:53:47 – 00:39:18:37
David Cook
Yes, yes, yes, I guess ultimately that’s what I want to do. I mean, I’ve been, I’ve been that’s the main thing. I, you know, what I saw from one of the people that I really respect in voice over, they say, find your niche and work that and because I didn’t want to be one of those people that like, you know, just talk about the people that do 101 voices.
00:39:18:42 – 00:39:43:48
David Cook
I don’t do impersonations and things like that, but I do have what my tools said, and I work and I work it and it works. And honestly, I booked gigs from that. So yeah, ultimately it’s at the point now where I need an agent. Okay, I need an agent. So and that’s what I’m working on now. That’s what I’m working on now.
00:39:43:57 – 00:39:54:16
David Cook
That’s I mean, I’m leading man. You would think I would be in a hurry to do it, but I’m not. I’m taking my time because I want to do everything. You know, I want to, I wanted, right? I don’t want to, you know?
00:39:54:18 – 00:39:57:38
Agent Palmer
I mean, but are you enjoying it?
00:39:57:43 – 00:40:02:40
David Cook
I love it, okay, I love it, I love it that I mean, it’s amazing.
00:40:02:47 – 00:40:16:34
Agent Palmer
Because, I mean, I guess the other thing is, like, do you also want to, like, continue doing, like, the narrative podcast stuff or like just narrative audio stuff, like, is that because. Oh, yeah, it’s not. Yeah. I mean.
00:40:16:34 – 00:40:38:04
David Cook
Like there’s so much creativity there though. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’ve heard some stuff that I’m like, wow, why did they even try to record that? But then there’s that like Joel stuff. I mean, it’s very well written and I’ve been in quite a few productions that were very, very well written. In fact, I was just in something recently that’s won a bunch of awards.
00:40:38:09 – 00:40:58:57
David Cook
I’m, I’m not a character, but I get to do my announcer voice, my announcer guy voice and and it’s won all kinds of podcasting awards, all kinds of, audio drama awards and everything. I mean, they just had an awards celebration, a celebration thing out here I didn’t get to go to. Tickets were kind of steep.
00:40:59:11 – 00:41:00:34
David Cook
But.
00:41:00:39 – 00:41:19:34
David Cook
But they somebody recorded on their phone them showing it. And it was at a I forget what theater was I hear, but it was a huge theater. So I’m here. They were playing the part with my voice over the theater speakers. Man, that was amazing. That was amazing.
00:41:19:34 – 00:41:30:35
Agent Palmer
I mean that. So I guess then, yeah, the next step would be to go to see the next big blockbuster and to have your trailer narration right in front of it. Right. Like just.
00:41:30:48 – 00:41:53:10
David Cook
Exactly, exactly do that. I mean, ultimately, if there’s a cartoon somewhere in there. Yeah, I would love that. Okay. There’s, you know, get now I’ve done some games. I’ve actually done some video games. Okay. And they’re, they’re on, steam. That’s fun too. They play a video game with your voice in it, but.
00:41:53:15 – 00:41:59:33
Agent Palmer
Does it throw you off? And like that, you can you mess with people like that are in the room by like, say, and stuff and then say stuff.
00:41:59:36 – 00:42:00:31
David Cook
Like.
00:42:00:35 – 00:42:02:51
David Cook
That’s the where that come from. No.
00:42:02:56 – 00:42:03:32
David Cook
No.
00:42:03:37 – 00:42:21:59
David Cook
But I mean, that’s but you know what? My, my thing is narration and trailer and promo stuff. I love that stuff because I get to do that voice, you know, and dude, that’s it’s a lot of fun. It’s I get to do the Percy Rodriguez or the Adolph Caesar thing.
00:42:22:01 – 00:42:39:42
Agent Palmer
Dude, it’s so exciting because, like, it, like, you just told me your whole story, and it sounds like a natural progression, but, like, only now that we’re looking back, does it look like a natural progression, like, at any point, like if we stop it before you get here at any point? And I was like, what? What are you going to do?
00:42:39:44 – 00:43:04:53
Agent Palmer
You’re like, I don’t, I don’t, I don’t know, like it’s not until you got to here that we can be like, dude, this is of course, of course. It makes perfect sense now. Dude, that’s I mean, it’s it it gives me hope because I’ve just been I don’t know what I like. I don’t, I don’t yeah, it’s I don’t like saying the whole wishy washy thing of like I’m going wherever I end up, I end up.
00:43:04:53 – 00:43:08:40
Agent Palmer
But like, there’s a lot things you don’t have control over.
00:43:08:45 – 00:43:09:30
David Cook
This is true.
00:43:09:30 – 00:43:19:56
Agent Palmer
And if it works out, it works out. But like I, I yeah, I, I, I, I saw I told Joel I was like all right what’s David’s story like that. Because that that’s like.
00:43:20:01 – 00:43:22:52
David Cook
It, it.
00:43:22:57 – 00:43:37:02
Agent Palmer
I don’t okay. So I want to ask you this because this is important to me. Just me, but like, I was my first podcast I was ever on, I tried to listen back to it, and I went, oh, my.
00:43:37:02 – 00:43:38:29
David Cook
Fucking voice is.
00:43:38:34 – 00:43:56:45
Agent Palmer
Like, that’s just. And that’s just me, right? And then I started this. I start this podcast and like the first edit, I’m like, I’m still in that same space. Like, oh, I forgot my voice. Right. And like, now, you know, you get you go on to episode ten, 15, 20, like, all right. Yeah, yeah. My voice is just my voice.
00:43:56:46 – 00:44:09:28
Agent Palmer
I’m all right. It’s fine. But, like, do you like like I. Here’s the thing. I still don’t love my voice. I just. Oh, wow. Mine. Right. Like, I just I don’t either, man.
00:44:09:33 – 00:44:11:02
David Cook
I gotta tell you.
00:44:11:07 – 00:44:14:47
David Cook
I love listening to me. I’m all right.
00:44:14:51 – 00:44:22:32
David Cook
I love my voice, man. It’s amazing whether it’s me singing. Oh, but then I’m one of my favorite singers, by the way. Okay, I don’t know.
00:44:22:32 – 00:44:23:06
Agent Palmer
Hey, man, I.
00:44:23:06 – 00:44:47:17
David Cook
Can listen to my recordings of me singing and and mind you, I do this quite often. All the time. Like my, my, one of my favorite renditions of My Funny Valentine is mine, okay? And I play it pretty much daily because this is a really cool rendition, and it’s got all the guys that are, you know, long around there playing on it, and it’s one of my favorite versions of My Funny Valentine.
00:44:47:28 – 00:44:52:53
David Cook
Now, from the speaking from the voice over perspective, I honestly like to hear myself talk.
00:44:53:02 – 00:44:57:01
Agent Palmer
Dude, I, I gotta tell you, I like to hear you talk to like I do.
00:44:57:06 – 00:44:59:58
David Cook
I appreciate that, but,
00:45:00:03 – 00:45:04:02
David Cook
Because like most people like like you were saying, most people hate the sound of their voice.
00:45:04:02 – 00:45:25:30
Agent Palmer
I, I yeah, I, I, I’ve gotten used to it like, I, I haven’t fallen in love with my voice. I’ve just gotten used to it. But like, I also think it, and this is a good question for you actually, like, I think one of the things that I don’t like about it is we all hear our own voices resonate in our head.
00:45:25:35 – 00:45:39:10
Agent Palmer
So when we put in headphones and the reason the resonance is so different, it’s weird. But, you know, it’s you. Yeah. So that’s the weird part. But like.
00:45:39:15 – 00:45:39:24
David Cook
I.
00:45:39:24 – 00:45:42:40
Agent Palmer
Don’t know, man, I, I’m kind of jealous that you like your voice, man.
00:45:42:40 – 00:46:08:43
David Cook
For me, it’s not like that because honestly, my voice has been such a huge part of my life, even from even when I was a child playing with my action figures every action figure had a voice. Okay? When I when I read comic books, I, I heard voices. I mean, every I mean, that’s the way I would read it, you know, everything was a it was a sound for me.
00:46:08:48 – 00:46:28:44
David Cook
So and when there wasn’t, I was creating it myself. So it’s never and I was also the kid that would get in front of the fan and just say stuff just so I could hear it back or go somewhere. It would go somewhere where there was really big acoustics and just sing or just talk just so I could hear it back.
00:46:28:44 – 00:46:35:20
Agent Palmer
You’re the guy in the bathroom just yelling stuff just to hear the residents in the river.
00:46:35:25 – 00:46:39:28
David Cook
Yep, yep. Though I don’t sing in the shower, though.
00:46:39:33 – 00:46:40:33
David Cook
So.
00:46:40:38 – 00:46:44:12
David Cook
Most people say, I bet you sing in the shower. No, I don’t, I don’t say no.
00:46:44:12 – 00:46:48:34
Agent Palmer
You save that for you. Save that for the microphone, man. Like, why would I waste in the shower?
00:46:48:36 – 00:46:54:35
David Cook
Exactly what? Yeah, yeah.
00:46:54:39 – 00:47:19:02
David Cook
But yeah, it’s a joy to me. So. And it being that way though makes makes it. It’s an instrument. I mean that’s why I view it as an instrument. Even when I’m just speaking, it’s still an instrument. So I think that that’s one of the ways or one of the reasons I can use it the way I do, because I enjoy the sound that I get from it.
00:47:19:07 – 00:47:32:13
David Cook
It’s like if I was playing a saxophone, I’d be a phenomenal sax player because I really enjoy what, you know, the sound it comes from it. So it makes me work harder to get that sound. Yeah.
00:47:32:18 – 00:47:51:22
Agent Palmer
I insistently and and I, I, I think it’s one of those weird things where it depends on your instrument. Right. Like I hear. Yeah, I can, I can look, I can, I can play a few other instruments, I can still play, I can play the six string. I, I have a tenor saxophone in my basement, but I haven’t picked it up since college, if I’m being honest.
00:47:51:27 – 00:47:52:12
Agent Palmer
But like.
00:47:52:14 – 00:47:52:59
David Cook
Oh,
00:47:53:04 – 00:48:30:39
Agent Palmer
But but bass is the one that’s kind of the first love and it’s still my love. But like when I’m listening to stuff, I get upset when I’m like, that’s an electric that, like, that’s a that’s that’s like, oh, that’s whatever the bass equivalent of a drum machine is. That’s not a bass. Right. Like I’m just or like or like in some of, like the, like this, like in that in the weird between the 70s and 90s where like, the bass just followed the root note of whatever everybody was playing and like, it basically doesn’t exist in the mix, unlike come on, like, it’s there’s a guy I don’t know what there’s a
00:48:30:39 – 00:48:48:27
Agent Palmer
guy there. Like he’s playing like, let him know. Yeah. So but but I picked that out. So like when you listen to even modern music like you, you always pick out like the, the the voice, like the you always pick out the vocals you like or like little pieces here and there.
00:48:48:27 – 00:48:52:14
David Cook
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean, there.
00:48:52:19 – 00:48:53:11
Agent Palmer
You can’t turn it off.
00:48:53:17 – 00:49:17:39
David Cook
No. Yeah, but, but but then I’m very critical though, like like you were saying, you hear things and you go, wow, that shouldn’t be that way. I’m that way as well. When I’m hearing things, I’m really critical. It’s hard not to be, though. It’s hard not to be so. But what’s interesting, though, like you were saying, how you how you had to grow into like, you know, not even liking but tolerating your voice.
00:49:17:39 – 00:49:18:15
Agent Palmer
Yeah.
00:49:18:20 – 00:49:41:11
David Cook
Like your voice. You’ve got a pocket that you go in that, that that’s perfect. That’s perfect. But I’m sure that has come from the fact you had to go through the period of I hate the way I sound, but then after that it’s like you don’t you started doing it so much. They did it. You’ve trained yourself. You know where to go.
00:49:41:16 – 00:50:05:06
Agent Palmer
Yeah, it’s always voice wearing. Wearing headphones helps. And and and also being in control of the edit where like I can control the compression and understand like all right this is where okay, let’s, let’s make this sound a little bit like because you’re right I, I have found my pocket, but I also have found a way to optimize that pocket.
00:50:05:11 – 00:50:09:32
Agent Palmer
So it sounds like what I want it to sound like right.
00:50:09:37 – 00:50:10:07
David Cook
Yeah.
00:50:10:07 – 00:50:15:23
Agent Palmer
And in that regard, yes, I think I think I have finally learned my instrument.
00:50:15:27 – 00:50:40:14
David Cook
Yeah, yeah. That’s cool, that’s cool. You. Yeah, a lot of people, they talk to me about voice over and they go, I always wanted to get into voice. So I hear this whenever somebody finds out that I do voice over, they go. I’ve always wanted to get into voice over. I go, okay, And I had a friend, a very, very dear friend, who’s who’s phenomenal at doing impersonations was phenomenal at doing accents.
00:50:40:27 – 00:50:49:25
David Cook
Okay, all that stuff. But and I try to tell people it’s more than that. It is so much more than that. And because the average person.
00:50:49:25 – 00:50:50:30
David Cook
Who.
00:50:50:35 – 00:51:12:35
David Cook
Has people telling them you should do voiceover where they tell themselves they should, they’ve never heard himself. I mean, they’ve never like they’ve never put on headphones and they’ve never heard themselves. So that’s a shock to, to to it’s gotta be to put on headphones and for the first time to actually hear yourself hear was what’s going out?
00:51:12:40 – 00:51:25:57
David Cook
And everybody can’t do it, though, honestly, everybody cannot do that. They can’t take that hearing themselves. And that becomes a, you know, that that that’s they never get over it. In other words.
00:51:26:02 – 00:51:47:31
Agent Palmer
Well, I think well, yeah, you’ve covered one half of the reason why people can’t do voiceover, and the other half is that people can’t read words naturally. Right. Like I think this is true. Like I and I’ve, I’ve heard I’d like I heard some of the stuff you’ve put out on like SoundCloud and stuff. And obviously I heard your performance and I know most of that stuff was scripted with Joel, but it doesn’t sound scripted.
00:51:47:31 – 00:52:00:05
Agent Palmer
Right. And like, I go back and I listen to, like, the first few episodes of this show where, like, my intros were scripted and you can tell I’m reading and I think somewhere around, like the 40 episode range is when I figured out how to read.
00:52:00:17 – 00:52:00:57
David Cook
The flow.
00:52:00:59 – 00:52:10:08
Agent Palmer
How to read like how to write for myself, but also how to read in a way where, like, I can say it and it sounds just like this now, and it doesn’t sound.
00:52:10:13 – 00:52:11:20
David Cook
It can be. Yeah.
00:52:11:25 – 00:52:13:54
Agent Palmer
Yeah, it’s not easy, man.
00:52:13:59 – 00:52:36:32
David Cook
People miss that too, because they go VoiceOver then they get stuck with voiceover, but it’s actually voice acting. It’s it’s literally you got to know how to act. I mean, don’t get me wrong, they’re even listening to it. Some announcers even they have a thing that they do that they work. I mean like, what’s his name? Michael Buffer.
00:52:36:37 – 00:52:56:06
David Cook
The announcer let’s get ready to rumble the guy evenly. I mean, there’s a stick that he has. There’s a, you know, there’s something that he puts into it to make it. Why he gets the money that he gets for doing that. But most people don’t understand it. They think, oh, if I just get the paper and I just read off the words, I can be a voice actor.
00:52:56:06 – 00:53:18:52
David Cook
It’s like, no, it doesn’t work that way. I’ll tell you another thing that’s amazing to me. Yeah, I got it. Somebody else. I know that wanting to get into voice acting. And I said, just record yourself, record yourself, and then listen back. Yeah. And they did. And they had all the mouth noise. That’s another thing people don’t realize that it exist.
00:53:18:56 – 00:53:19:33
David Cook
Yeah.
00:53:19:37 – 00:53:30:36
David Cook
Until they hear themselves record it back and they hear pops and it’s like an old record, old vinyl.
00:53:30:41 – 00:53:45:36
David Cook
But there’s an art to it. And like, I see all the stuff where people go, oh, yeah, you got to have a green apple in them, right? I’m allergic to apples. I’ll die if I eat an apple. So no, I can’t do the green apple thing. But I mean, there are other ways of getting around stuff like that.
00:53:45:36 – 00:53:57:40
David Cook
But people forget. I mean, they don’t forget. They don’t realize there’s so much more that goes into it than just having a piece, having a script in front of you and just saying the words. It is.
00:53:57:45 – 00:53:58:20
Agent Palmer
Yeah, it.
00:53:58:23 – 00:54:20:17
David Cook
That’s why I watch a lot of the old movies, like from the 30s and 40s and 50s, because even back then they didn’t act just by virtue of the script or just saying the script, but they they had nuances in their voices. Yeah, they would do stuff with their faces. That’s why back in the day there was so many close ups.
00:54:20:22 – 00:54:20:49
Agent Palmer
I mean.
00:54:20:53 – 00:54:22:00
David Cook
I mean, you know, I.
00:54:22:01 – 00:54:34:13
Agent Palmer
I, I will always have a soft spot for the Marx Brothers, but like, just the amount of, like you can, you can watch that stuff on mute and it will still just.
00:54:34:27 – 00:54:35:11
David Cook
And it’s yeah.
00:54:35:16 – 00:54:47:03
Agent Palmer
You’ll still get it. You still get it like and it’s a yes. I mean, we can talk and laugh about like the Groucho’s ridiculous mustache, but it’s ridiculous. So you can do stuff with it. Like, you know what I mean?
00:54:47:03 – 00:54:48:03
David Cook
Like, yeah. Yeah.
00:54:48:04 – 00:54:48:41
Agent Palmer
It’s not.
00:54:48:42 – 00:54:49:39
David Cook
He was amazing.
00:54:49:48 – 00:54:52:48
Agent Palmer
It’s not subtle because he it’s not supposed to be right.
00:54:52:53 – 00:54:57:02
David Cook
It’s not supposed to be exactly, exactly. I mean, his walk.
00:54:57:07 – 00:54:58:23
David Cook
00:54:58:28 – 00:55:13:09
David Cook
And duck. Well, I mean, to me, Groucho was a comedic genius. Yeah. And and it shined even more when he was just regular. I mean, just regularly talking to people, just in conversation. He was amazing.
00:55:13:09 – 00:55:14:46
David Cook
Yeah, it’s.
00:55:14:46 – 00:55:23:57
David Cook
Funny.
00:55:24:02 – 00:55:46:54
Agent Palmer
I think if there is one thing that David said that needs to resonate with more people, it’s that he is his own favorite singer. That’s huge. I want to try and learn from that. I want to be my own favorite writer, but it’ll take a bit of work to get there. We should all be our favorites. It’s not ego, it’s more about pride.
00:55:46:54 – 00:56:11:16
Agent Palmer
So I shall work on becoming my own favorite writer. As for the rest, this conversation was a blast and there is so much more in here. But I will say this if you listen to at least one song from every artist mentioned in this episode, that would make for one heck of a playlist. As for me, I’ll be seeing what obstacles are in my own way for being my own favorite writer.
00:56:11:16 – 00:56:35:33
Agent Palmer
While listening to David sing. Thanks for listening to The Palmer Files episode 103. And now for the official business. The Palmer Files releases every two weeks on Tuesdays. If you’re still listening, I encourage you to join the discussion. You can find all related ways to contact myself and my guest, David Cook, in the show notes. There you can find links to David’s YouTube, SoundCloud, and other such things where you can hear what he’s been up to.
00:56:35:38 – 00:56:49:54
Agent Palmer
The music for this episode was provided by Henno Heitur. Email can be sent to the show at The Palmer Files at gmail.com. And remember, you’re home for all things. Agent Palmer is Agent palmer.com.
00:56:49:59 – 00:57:04:39
Agent Palmer
And.
00:57:04:44 – 00:57:31:32
Agent Palmer
We.
00:57:31:37 – 00:57:34:23
Agent Palmer
All right. David, do you have one final question for me?
00:57:34:27 – 00:57:48:22
David Cook
Yeah I do, I’m going back to what we were talking about as far as, sci fi and Star Trek and Star Wars. Yeah. What do you think of the new iterations of not just Star Trek, but Star Wars as well?
00:57:48:29 – 00:58:06:42
Agent Palmer
I so I haven’t gotten to the trek because I, because I’m starting this journey like, I know Picard just ended. I will get to it in a few years because I still have. Yeah, I plan on going through the whole catalog because and this is excellent. I think it’s important to get context, obviously.
00:58:06:48 – 00:58:07:11
David Cook
00:58:07:47 – 00:58:30:04
Agent Palmer
So that’s kind of why I started with the original series. But for Star Wars, it’s one of those weird things to me. And I look at a different franchise that I am absolutely in love with that got it so very wrong for everybody. That’s not me. So a little backstory. I am in love with the Jurassic franchise.
00:58:30:08 – 00:58:53:38
Agent Palmer
I’ve loved gold. I love all of Crichton’s books. I think The Lost World, it might be better as a novel than Jurassic Park, but I’m in the minority there. I think the movies are fun popcorn flicks. I think the camp Cretaceous series that was on Netflix was hugely underrated because it just had so much, you know, nerds and geeks like to call canon.
00:58:53:45 – 00:58:55:06
Agent Palmer
It was all in there, like there was.
00:58:55:06 – 00:58:55:35
David Cook
Yeah, there’s.
00:58:55:35 – 00:59:13:34
Agent Palmer
So many little like, nods and things. And then what happened was Jurassic World and that came out and I thought it was a great reboot, so to speak. It was very much like, yeah, yeah, The Force Awakens, where it’s something familiar and something kind of different, like it was perfect. I think what.
00:59:13:34 – 00:59:14:18
David Cook
Happened.
00:59:14:23 – 00:59:41:50
Agent Palmer
And this is what this is the my problem with it, with both the new iterations of Star Wars and those Jurassic World trilogy, what they did in the last Jurassic World movie, Dominion, of bridging the gap and having the old and the new that’s supposed to be your second film. That’s not supposed to be your end. And I think Star Wars got it wrong by intermixing new and old.
00:59:41:50 – 01:00:01:17
Agent Palmer
For three whole movies, you need to do. Yeah. What if if the if in my perfect reboot slash continuation of a series, it would be Jurassic World and then it would be Jurassic World Dominion, where you have the old and the new and a true hand off. And then you do a new Jurassic World movie as a third.
01:00:01:17 – 01:00:26:28
Agent Palmer
That’s just the new people. And I think that, yeah, you know, in hindsight, I can make this statement. And it’s also why I’m so upset with Star Wars because, like, I don’t mind that you wanted Princess, you know, rest in peace, Carrie Fisher. But, like, I didn’t want you to have Princess Leia and Han Solo and Luke Skywalker all make all three part no, no, like I didn’t I didn’t want that.
01:00:26:33 – 01:00:47:26
Agent Palmer
I wanted a true button handing over of, you know, and I think that Jurassic, the recent Jurassic World Dominion didn’t do well is because as a movie, it only works if you’ve enjoyed the entire franchise. I loved that film, but I also loved every film that came before it. There are people that are like, man, I didn’t like The Lost World.
01:00:47:26 – 01:00:54:08
Agent Palmer
I didn’t like Fallen Kingdom, and that’s fine. But then this movie’s not for you, it’s for me. Right. And I.
01:00:54:11 – 01:00:55:05
David Cook
Exactly. I’m.
01:00:55:05 – 01:01:24:52
Agent Palmer
I’m in the minority, so you shouldn’t be making a blockbuster film franchise film for me. I acknowledge I’m the minority. And so I think that’s where a lot of these reboots and look like. Look, I’ve heard a lot of good things about the Star Trek reboot, and I’m I’m excited to get there when I get there. But, you know, for where I’m at right now, like, I’ve been enjoying what I’ve seen and, yeah, but I don’t know.
01:01:24:52 – 01:01:40:16
Agent Palmer
I also feel like, there are problems inherent as a geek and a nerd with the fact that, like, nobody wants to create anything new anymore, and we’re just going to keep making stuff. Yes. And like, yes, I.
01:01:40:16 – 01:01:41:52
David Cook
Which is a bad thing.
01:01:41:52 – 01:02:04:06
Agent Palmer
I mean, I have this conversation, it feels like on a regular basis with people that are like, oh, yeah. Not happy with the MCU. Yeah. But you keep watching it. And as long as you keep watching it, they’re going to keep making it like they don’t see diminishing returns when they made another billion dollars, like, yeah, okay.
01:02:04:06 – 01:02:10:38
Agent Palmer
It didn’t do 2 billion, but it made a billion, which means it made its money back plus. And so they’re going to keep making it.
01:02:10:43 – 01:02:11:08
David Cook
And keep.
01:02:11:08 – 01:02:36:25
Agent Palmer
Doing. And if you if you want minority superheroes, you have to go support minority. You can’t be like, oh, like yeah, the Eternals was weird because it was all these weird non-normal characters. Like, well, then you can’t complain when all of your characters, all your superheroes are white. Well, yeah. You didn’t go see Eternals in the theater.
01:02:36:30 – 01:02:36:49
David Cook
With.
01:02:36:49 – 01:03:03:05
Agent Palmer
All of these different characters like that’s on. Yeah. You. And so I, I try and support independent creators, and I try and do what I can for, like, the little guy. But at the same time, I know that, like, at the moment it feels like a losing battle because while everybody will complain, they are still going to see, you know, the next Batman, which is just going to be the same as it always was.
01:03:03:10 – 01:03:34:42
Agent Palmer
Right? And yeah, okay, okay. But then don’t complain that you’ve never gotten a Robin, like, because you just keep going to see Batman. Like that’s just yeah, you’re not going to get a Nightwing movie. It’s. I’m sorry. It’s not going to happen. Batman makes too much money every time he comes out with a movie. It’s. And so I’m in that weird space where when we bring it back to Star Trek and Star Wars, like, we keep going back to the well, like we we were told the Skywalker series was over, and then they announced that Rey’s getting a movie.
01:03:34:49 – 01:03:44:09
Agent Palmer
Well. Oh, but you said it was over. Like what? Yeah, I don’t yeah, I, I don’t know, I just, I feel like.
01:03:44:14 – 01:03:59:56
Agent Palmer
We’re in a place now where, like, I’m a, I’m a reader. Like, I don’t do comics so much anymore, but I read, I pick up books all the time. And while there’s a part of me that goes, I love this book. I don’t want anybody to touch this. Don’t, don’t, don’t make a movie I like. I love this book.
01:03:59:56 – 01:04:25:09
Agent Palmer
Do not touch this book. There’s also a part of me that’s like, well, a lot of the great cinema is based on books. And maybe you should touch the book. I don’t want you to because, like it, it’s it’s fresh and it’s different. And that’s why I liked it. And maybe that will be the thing that I, I don’t, I don’t know, it’s just it’s such a, it’s like none of this is easy because we’re talking about money.
01:04:25:14 – 01:04:47:48
Agent Palmer
Yeah. But I just, I want there to be other things like you think about, like. So you don’t know any good storytellers that aren’t J.J. Abrams and George Lucas, like. No, of course you do. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like like, think about this. I don’t I don’t have any grandparents left, but my grandparents could tell a fucking story, man.
01:04:47:53 – 01:04:48:13
Agent Palmer
Okay.
01:04:48:13 – 01:04:49:24
David Cook
Yeah, exactly.
01:04:49:28 – 01:04:56:51
Agent Palmer
I’m not saying I would want them to write a movie, but they are storytellers. And that’s where it starts.
01:04:56:56 – 01:04:58:16
David Cook
Exactly.
01:04:58:21 – 01:05:04:28
Agent Palmer
So, yeah, a big, big rant to just say, like, they aren’t rebooting these movies properly, man. I just.
01:05:04:33 – 01:05:27:04
David Cook
They’re not. I, I agree with you completely that that was that was a perfect explanation as far as I’m concerned. I mean, because just real quickly, there’s so much, that has not been explored in both those, those franchises. Yeah. I mean, as far as Star Wars is concerned, I want to know how the Jedi came to be.
01:05:27:09 – 01:05:39:49
David Cook
I want to know the origins of the Sith. I want to know all of that. And they’re not touching any of that stuff. Not there’s so many directions they could go in. I wish they would. I want them to. I mean, I want to know.
01:05:39:55 – 01:05:40:34
Agent Palmer
I will.
01:05:40:34 – 01:05:45:03
David Cook
Say, don’t get me. I will say what they’ve been giving me.
01:05:45:08 – 01:05:52:36
Agent Palmer
And look, this is going to be a weird statement for, for someone like you who’s who’s a Trek fan.
01:05:52:41 – 01:05:53:26
David Cook
01:05:53:31 – 01:06:00:07
Agent Palmer
Before I started watching my before I started on my Trek journey, I fell in love with The Orville.
01:06:00:12 – 01:06:03:07
David Cook
Oh, man, I love that show. But here’s the thing that shows.
01:06:03:08 – 01:06:20:17
Agent Palmer
I’m sitting next to my partner, who herself is a huge Trek fan who gets a lot more references from The Orville at that time than I did. And I’m like, all right, so this is what’s going to happen. When I finished, we’re going to rewatch The Orville so I can get those references to.
01:06:20:17 – 01:06:27:37
David Cook
So you’ll get those references. I love The Orville. To me, that’s the most Trek thing that’s been in a long time.
01:06:27:37 – 01:06:47:16
Agent Palmer
And see, I like that idea, though, that it’s not like it doesn’t have to be called Star Trek, and it doesn’t have to be called Star Wars. Like, yeah, I, I my favorite movie, my favorite big budget action movie of the last ten years, maybe Valerian. I thought that, oh.
01:06:47:17 – 01:06:47:44
David Cook
Wow.
01:06:47:48 – 01:07:00:45
Agent Palmer
Luc Besson took something that he loved as a childhood and put it on the big screen in a way that made me feel like this is probably as close his fifth element to as I’ll ever get. I’m on board for this.
01:07:00:50 – 01:07:02:32
David Cook
And I need to watch that. Of course.
01:07:02:47 – 01:07:21:36
Agent Palmer
It didn’t do well, but then again, it’s based off of French comics, which probably he probably took a more literal translation for from from the original source material, which obviously would not translate to an American audience. But I’m here going like, that’s true. I just I know what I’m in for. Like, give me, give me more Fifth Element, stuff like that.
01:07:21:45 – 01:07:40:42
Agent Palmer
Yes, let’s do it. And yet and it is original, still based off of the comic, but it’s a, it’s a ritual to meet this medium. And it didn’t do well. So it’s like I don’t. Yeah, it’s really hard because I feel like. All right, well then I guess we’re just this is where we are. This is where we live.
01:07:40:43 – 01:07:47:40
Agent Palmer
And you and I get to talk about, like, that’s a movie that we’ll never get a sequel for, probably. But it was really good.
01:07:47:40 – 01:08:04:15
David Cook
Yeah. You know what? There’s a bunch of in my opinion, there’s a bunch of potential franchises that deserve reboots. Honestly, I would love to see a reboot of Darkman. Okay, I, I just, I, I really would I think that could work if done correctly.
01:08:04:17 – 01:08:23:47
Agent Palmer
But I also think they do that when it comes to comic books. We, I think we’ve, I think we’ve hit diminishing returns with everything being connected. Oh yeah. And I you know what I mean? Like, I would hate to be pitching any Marvel property right now because even if you loved it, they’re going to be like, well, how does it tie in?
01:08:23:47 – 01:08:34:14
Agent Palmer
Like, well, it yeah, it does it. Yeah. Like and then they’re like, well, here’s the door. Thank you for coming in like.
01:08:34:18 – 01:08:43:57
David Cook
Yeah. They. Yeah, they they, there’s I don’t know, man. There’s so much that they could be doing though that they’re just not doing. Yeah. They’re just not doing.
01:08:43:57 – 01:08:49:31
Agent Palmer
It’s sad. We got to get out there. We got to make we got to make our Millie. We got to become the producers. That’s the.
01:08:49:36 – 01:09:10:34
David Cook
How is it? What do you read? In my mind, I was just thinking that I was about to say. And we got to be. We got to be wealthy so we can start doing these things the way they need to be done. Yeah. I mean, I don’t honestly classic stuff. I don’t, I, I don’t want to see an ad, somebody nowadays being cast as Kirk, Spock or any of them.
01:09:10:34 – 01:09:35:21
David Cook
This is me. It’s done. Leave that. There’s so much. Yes, that’s been done. You cannot replace. I don’t want to see anyone cast Dole. I think the girl from, What’s her name? Millie. Millie Bobby Brown. You could would make a great young Princess Leia, but I don’t I don’t want to I there’s part of me that wants to see that, and it’s part of me.
01:09:35:21 – 01:09:45:26
David Cook
I don’t want to see that. Yeah, go somewhere else. Get so many. The origins of of the Sith. Show me the origins of the Jedi. Go somewhere else. This can.
01:09:45:26 – 01:10:05:54
Agent Palmer
Do. Greta Greedo shot first, or whatever. Let’s start that whole argument up. But we know nothing about him, right? Like, exactly like, as far as the cinematic stuff goes, I know he was a little bit in Clone Wars, but like, as far as the films go, he’s on screen for five minutes and get shot maybe. Yeah, we can find out what he was up to.
01:10:05:59 – 01:10:13:27
David Cook
You know what I tell you? I love The Mandalorian and I love Boba Fett. I love those series. Those are great.
01:10:13:32 – 01:10:31:12
Agent Palmer
Yeah, I just it took me a while to get to them because I feel like there’s so much media and I’m trying. It’s really hard like to you don’t have to collect all of it, but you feel like at a certain point you either have to live with spoilers or you have to put your life on hold and watch it.
01:10:31:17 – 01:10:39:46
Agent Palmer
And that’s a weird place to be. But I also feel like because there’s all these platforms, maybe some of these other things will finally get paid. Question.
01:10:39:53 – 01:10:46:08
David Cook
That would be wonderful. Yeah, that would be wonderful. Hopefully that’ll open the door to things like that.
01:10:46:12 – 01:10:50:08
Agent Palmer
Would be great. From your mouth to God’s ears, man.
01:10:50:13 – 01:10:52:45
David Cook
There you go. Well, I’m listening now.
01:10:52:46 – 01:10:53:13
David Cook
Just kidding.
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