Episode 125 features Movie Minute Rob! He’s a movie blogger and podcaster, host of a minute-by-minute podcast, and he has returned!
He’s back to continue his story of emigration and then we talk about movies, blogging, podcasting, and the impact that what we put into the world can have on the world and us.
We also touch on some spirituality, learning about ourselves through our history, the concept of the movie-by-minute podcast and how it relates to the Talmud, and so much more…
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Agent Palmer
Previously on Agent palmer.com. Palmer’s trek continues with Star Trek First Contact. Revisiting the golden age of independent film. And no, this isn’t a repeat. This is The Palmer Files episode 125 with the return of Movie Minute Rob. He’s here to complete the story of his emigration to Israel and to discuss compulsory military service. Settling down, starting a prolific blog, starting a podcast, the Movies by Minute podcast evolution, and much, much more.
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Agent Palmer
Are you ready? Let’s do the show.
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Agent Palmer
Hello, and welcome to The Palmer Files. I’m your host, Jason Stershic also known as Agent Palmer. And on this 125th episode is Movie Minute Rob. He’s back to continue the story of his emigration. And then we talk about movies, blogging, podcasting, and the impact that what we put out into the world can have on the world around us.
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Agent Palmer
We also touch on some spirituality, learning about ourselves through our history. The concept of the Movie by Minute podcast and how it relates to the Talmud and much, much more. But before we get there, remember that if you want to discuss the episode as you listen or afterwards, you can find all related ways to contact my guest, Movie minute Rob and myself in the show notes.
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Agent Palmer
Rob’s prolific work can be found online at movie Rob Dot WordPress.com. Don’t forget you can see all of my writings and rantings on Agent palmer.com. And of course, email can be sent to the Palmer files at gmail.com. So without further ado, let’s get into it.
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Agent Palmer
All right. So, Rob, when we left off, you’re in the old city for your third time. You’re you’re in Israel for your third time.
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MovieRob
Correct?
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Agent Palmer
And you’re in the old city. I want to ask because we were there at different times.
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MovieRob
You’re the oldest is 92. This is August, the end of August. I came to I came back to Israel. That for that third time. Or I keep Israel on August 27th, 1992.
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Agent Palmer
So were you spending as much I the whole loaded question. Were you spending as much time in, like outside of the old city as you were inside?
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MovieRob
No, I was spending more time in.
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Agent Palmer
Okay, okay.
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MovieRob
Because I mean much more. I mean, because, again, I’m in a program where it’s a it’s a study program. This isn’t a, a tourist program.
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Agent Palmer
Okay. No, I get I get that, but this is.
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MovieRob
The we’re sitting in where we’re studying all day.
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Agent Palmer
Okay. And obviously, you know, the Kotel is there, the Wailing Wall, whatever.
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MovieRob
And, and and I, I actually from the first day that I got there, a friend of mine suggested that I go to him to a, you know, for people who are unfamiliar. So to Jews, pray three times a day, you pray, you have the morning prayer, the afternoon prayer, and the evening prayer. Right. So, a friend of mine suggested that, he was he told me he was going to the to the morning prayer, and he’s going to go to the Kotel.
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MovieRob
Okay. But what’s the catch? The catch is, is that the the the the prayer starts, about 15 minutes before dawn. Okay. And you get to a certain point in the prayer, like the most important part of the prayer. You get there exactly at sunrise. Okay. That’s that’s the idea of it. So I went that first day with him, and this was, I remember very clearly the first time I went there.
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MovieRob
It was before we had, we were still on, daily daylight savings time. So sunrise was like, at 5:00 in the morning or something like that. So we went really, really early to, you know, to, to to start this prayer. And it turns out that for the entire year that I was there, I went just about every single morning, seven days a week to, to do that same prayer.
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MovieRob
This friend of mine who told me, who suggested that we go, he lasted like two days. You know, we.
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Agent Palmer
Okay. All right. So, the program ends?
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MovieRob
No. Well.
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Agent Palmer
Yeah.
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MovieRob
I mean, before, you know, while the program is going on. So obviously, within a week or two, I am so entrenched in this country and in everything that’s going on, I have already decided in my mind that I’m staying. I’m not going anywhere.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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MovieRob
You know, and the reason for that is because I said, I know too many people that went back to the States and said, oh, I’m going to eventually come back. And and they go back.
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Agent Palmer
And.
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MovieRob
They and life, life gets in the way. You get, you know, you go to either your, study in.
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Agent Palmer
University, you’re and.
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MovieRob
Then you’re looking for.
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Agent Palmer
Ten night and you get to make this decision.
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MovieRob
I’m 1880.
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Agent Palmer
Okay. So you’re.
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MovieRob
1818 and.
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Agent Palmer
You’re you’re. But but it’s only I mean or I say only, but still it’s only your third time. In the country. Before we go further, have you been abroad, other places, or is it just been America and Israel at this point?
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MovieRob
Well, the Canada and Mexico,
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Agent Palmer
I mean, we could get a candidate, but under. So it’s North America and Israel, like.
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MovieRob
Yes. Oh, North America and Israel.
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Agent Palmer
Okay. And still you know, it’s, you’re you’re like, I’m I’m not. I’m done. I’m, I’m. This is I found my home. I found my.
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MovieRob
Race. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Again, I just felt really, really comfortable. Now, in in Israel, the there is a, mandatory, draft for people living here, you know, for citizens that, you know, you join the army when when you’re 18.
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Agent Palmer
Yep.
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MovieRob
So I also realized that, you know, making the decision that I want to stay means that at that time.
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Agent Palmer
Yeah, I mean, it’s not, you know.
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MovieRob
It doesn’t even matter. I mean, if you even if you make if you decide to stay a few years later, you know, there’s still whatever you decide that you want to become a citizen. So then they decide, you know, how does it work with with the army? But but most people, when they decide that they want to live here, are, you know, understand the idea of the compulsory service in the army.
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Agent Palmer
Well, I’m just saying, like you’re in your prime, though. Like you’re going in with everybody else.
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MovieRob
Yeah. A little bit later, but yeah, more or less, you know, slightly, slightly later. But so I said, okay, I’m going to finish the, this program, the, you know, finish the year of studying and then, joining the Army, I’m going in. And now one of the things that they have is that the program that I was a part of.
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MovieRob
So they’re Israelis that are part of this program also. And the Israelis that are part of the program, they’re in a, a, I guess a national program where what they do is they study for a few years, and then in the middle, they also do Army service. Okay. You know, because again, the studying that we’re that I’m talking about here is, is, you know, Judaic studies, it’s studying Talmud and, you know, and, and, you know, the Bible and, you know, all the Jewish, subjects.
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MovieRob
Yes. You know, so so it’s something that Israelis have the option, you know, if you are religious and are interested, you know, if here and you’re interested in studying and you don’t want to go to the Army for three straight years, so you can do this other program, which is a five year program where half of the time you’re in the Army and half of the time you’re studying.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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MovieRob
Okay. In order to because there’s the understanding that, okay, you know, it is important to study also, you know, and that the studies or Judaic studies is not secular studies, you know, from that perspective.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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MovieRob
So the the, the idea is, is that I can now join the Army and go with the, the, the Israelis that are in the program with me, okay. And be with you.
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Agent Palmer
So, you know, you you now have, I mean, when you first went back this third time, you didn’t know anybody. Now you’re not only studying with these people, but you’re training with these people, too.
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MovieRob
Well, not yet, but I’m not. You know, I know that I’m going to go into the army with some of them. Okay. You know which of them? I don’t know yet. You know that that’s something. Because it depends, you know, when when everyone starts, starts their service, you know, you’re sent to different units and things like that. But in general, it’s it’s assumed that I’m going to be with some of them.
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MovieRob
Okay. Okay. Now, one of the biggest hurdles, obviously, in this whole, story is my parents.
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Agent Palmer
I was going to well, I was going to get that was literally where I was going. I was like, wait, hold on. I mean, you make this decision, that’s fine. I’m I, I don’t know that I made any declarations like that at 18, but like you do have to. So it is there like there’s a whole I.
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MovieRob
Know there isn’t a call. My parents, my parents came to visit me in November.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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MovieRob
Okay. I remember I started the end of August. We came to visit in November. And, you know, during the week that they were here, I mentioned it to them. I said, look, I made the decision that I want I want to stay here. And I’m still shocked to this day. At their reaction, they’re like, okay, you’re 18.
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MovieRob
If this is what you want to do, we will support you. Okay? You know, we’ll support you in your decision. Not not financially, but go.
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Agent Palmer
Okay. Yeah.
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MovieRob
They’re they’re like, okay, you if this is what you want to do and you’re sure of it, then no problem. Again, it might have to do with the fact that I’m the youngest of seven in a blended family. So, you know, maybe they said, okay, we’ve we’ve seen so much already. You know, at this point, you know, you let your you let your kids do whatever you feel that they want to do.
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MovieRob
Okay.
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Agent Palmer
Yeah.
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MovieRob
I don’t know.
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Agent Palmer
That’s all right. So so it were you were you at all nervous in telling them that you had made the decision?
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MovieRob
I was nervous because I didn’t know how they were going to react completely. And I didn’t know if I’m going to have to argue with him about it. Okay. Because this is I. I had made the decision. So.
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Agent Palmer
Yeah. I mean, you’re going in mind made up. So you’re nervous about like, do I have to fight for this.
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MovieRob
That’s right.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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MovieRob
That’s right. And thankfully I didn’t have to fight for it, you know, which again, was something that shocked me because as I said, I didn’t grow up in a family where, you know, we talked about these type of issues and that it’s important, you know, it’s important to live in Israel. It’s important to defend the state of Israel, all these things.
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MovieRob
No, you know, okay.
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Agent Palmer
But yeah. All right. So but,
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MovieRob
Maybe it’s you. Maybe it was just under the surface. I don’t know.
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Agent Palmer
So you you you make this decision. Obviously, emigrating is, a different scenario. And there are I mean, we’ve kind of glossed over it a bit. There are some religious implications for a Jew to emigrate to Israel. But you do this, is is this the end of your back and forth in.
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MovieRob
It’s the.
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Agent Palmer
End. As far as live.
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MovieRob
My not my way of living. Yes. I have never lived in America since. Since, I guess August 26th, 1992.
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Agent Palmer
Okay. And.
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MovieRob
I mean, I went back after during the course of this year, during the program, I actually left for about three weeks to be able to go back to the states, you know, to, to take care of things that I need to take care of and stuff like that. But I don’t I don’t consider for me, that was a vacation there, you know, because it that I was I went back to live there, you know, because I was still part of this program, like like when I went to the heads of the program and I said, look, I want to, you know, I want to take off three weeks to go to America because
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MovieRob
I’m going to be joining the Army in the summer. They’re like, okay, no problem. You know, it wasn’t that they didn’t fight me on that either, because they understood that I was coming back.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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MovieRob
So and they already had my money anyway. So so.
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Agent Palmer
Yeah. So I want to fast forward a smidge. Okay. I want to fast forward to your compulsory, compulsory, military service.
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MovieRob
Sure, sure. So, basically in the summer of 1983, in July 1983, I was conscripted, you know, after having to go through many, many tests over the course of a few months, beforehand and stuff like that, both, both physical and mental and things like that. Medical.
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Agent Palmer
Is there any, hesitation? I mean, you’re, you’re you’re 18 to 19, you know, like you’re you’re a baby still.
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MovieRob
Right? No harm whatsoever.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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MovieRob
All right. No. And and again, I mean, you you see what I look like? I, I was never a, an in great shape, you know, so I, you know, not I’m not going to say that I was.
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Agent Palmer
I may look like I mean but I’ve never been in great shape.
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MovieRob
Either. No, but I’m saying okay, that’s true. Yeah. And I’ll give you that one. But but yeah, you understand my point here that that, you know, I knew that physically it was going to be difficult on me. I knew that, but, it was still important to me to be able. And it was.
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Agent Palmer
It was worth it.
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MovieRob
Completely worth it. And because, you know, medically, there were no, there were no problems. I was, given, I guess you can say, basically I was I was the highest medical, level that you could be.
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Agent Palmer
Okay, meaning.
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MovieRob
That I could go to any unit that I wanted to, you know, I, you know, to get in there certain units to certain units that you can volunteer for the certain units you have to do special tests for and stuff like that. But but to get into that, I mean, the most, I guess elite type of unit that you can get into without having to do extra tests is, a regular infantry unit, you know, and that’s what is and that’s what I said I wanted to do, and that’s what I volunteered to do.
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MovieRob
Okay, okay. So in in the platoon that I was in, we were about, approximately 30, 35 guys, there were ten of us that were, from abroad.
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Agent Palmer
Okay. Is that we’re I mean, I obviously you were only in that platoon, but is that I don’t know. To me, that seems like a very high number. Is that average? Like, do you I mean, you.
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MovieRob
Talk to the type of well, again, this is based on the program that we were part of your work up. We went in with the guys with the Israelis that are in that five year program. So people that are going in that five year program, there are always, you know.
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Agent Palmer
People from abroad and, okay, that.
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MovieRob
That, that did similar programs to what I did that will, you know, that that will also want to join in. Okay. You know, and so in our unit, in our infantry unit, there were ten there was another infantry unit, that there was probably another ten. And there was a, you know, a tank unit that had another ten.
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MovieRob
I mean, there, there there were many more foreigners that, that, that volunteer than, than one would expect. Okay. Because again, it goes to ideology and things like that. You know, that’s what it comes down to. I mean, and the foreigners we had, we had one guy from Italy that was with this one guy from France, one guy from Switzerland.
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MovieRob
And then we were, I think, four Americans and three Canadians. Or maybe it was vice versa, maybe it was three and four. I, I don’t remember, offhand right now. So, so, so I had, you know, we had the English also as opposed to the Hebrew.
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Agent Palmer
So when, when you’re, when you’re in the army. Yeah. And doing this studying, you’re probably fairly you’re taken care of as far as room and board or do you need an additional job at this point.
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MovieRob
Which is what I’m in the program or when I’m in the when I’m in the Army.
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Agent Palmer
When you’re in the Army, you’re, you’re taking care of.
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MovieRob
When you’re in, when you’re in the army. Basically, I because I was a foreigner, I got a, I got a stipend to be able to, to, to pay for, for, for to stay somewhere, you know. So I actually got an apartment with two other friends, one of them that had that had done the same program a year before.
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MovieRob
Okay. So and then someone else who was in the program with me at the time, so basically, you know, my friend from the year before had his own apartment basically all week, except for when, you know, we came home for, you know, you know, in between training for him, it was the best deal because because, you know, we split all the utilities three ways and all this stuff.
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MovieRob
But basically the way that it came, the the way that it worked was, is that that, you know, the, you know, had a stipend that was willing to pay for chair, for two room boards, room because but again, this is only when I was going home. When you’re on the base, you don’t have a problem with room and board, you know, that time.
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MovieRob
So.
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Agent Palmer
During this time, are you do you have a place? I mean, I, you know, again, you’re young. I don’t know how foresight you are at that age. Like, do you know what happens? You know, should you get out? Like, do you know what happens when.
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MovieRob
You get out when you get home? So when you.
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Agent Palmer
You know, well, you know, but you know when, when your service is over, like, do you, do you have a plan? Because obviously the military service is part of the immigration process. So like when you know.
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MovieRob
You have to know because the program that I did was for foreigners, I hadn’t yet immigrated. Official.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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MovieRob
Okay. So when.
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Agent Palmer
Does that.
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MovieRob
Help? My program was only for a year and a half. Okay. You know, I didn’t I didn’t have to do the three full years of compulsory army service because of that. Okay? That was that was part of the reason. So the plan after that was is okay, I’ll finish it and I’ll see what I’m going to do.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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MovieRob
And my parents obviously the whole time kept saying to me, well, you need to make sure that you go to college and you study and you can you can get a degree. And I was like, yeah, we’ll see. Who knows? I’ll decide afterwards what I’m going to do. You know, first I’m going to deal with what I’m dealing with now, and then I’ll deal with the rest later.
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Agent Palmer
I mean, that that’s at a at a young person’s game, right?
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MovieRob
Yeah. For sure, for sure. Yeah. Okay. So and I, you know and that that works for me actually. So you know okay. I didn’t need to think ahead at that point. All right. Because because thinking ahead isn’t going to do me any good anyway, you know. Yeah. But so you got to make it out alive first. You know.
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Agent Palmer
When you, when you, when you get out and you’re like, I want to fast forward, you get out your you establish yourself living in this new country. You know, relatively new. You’ve been there a couple of years now, but like, you feel like how like you felt home from the moment you landed the first time. So what is it like exploring your, your ancestral new homeland?
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Agent Palmer
Once you’re there.
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MovieRob
I loved it, because again, I could go anywhere I want, travel anywhere. I want, to check out things, you know, I mean, I was living in Jerusalem at the time, so, you know, I got to to know Jerusalem really, really well. It became second nature to me.
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Agent Palmer
All right, what about the rest of, the country, as far as you know, the north, the south, the the the the. Yeah, the beaches east and west.
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MovieRob
I was traveling all over the place.
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Agent Palmer
Okay.
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MovieRob
And so when I could, you know. Yeah, yeah. Because, obviously, obviously I needed to start finding, you know, a way to, to to make a living.
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Agent Palmer
Yeah, but but when you’re not doing that, you’re not sitting still. You’re not just going home, like, to to your apartment. You’re you’re still out to see more of this place.
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MovieRob
Well, yes and no. You know me. I’m, I’m a movie and TV person, so I, I can’t be on the road all the time.
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Agent Palmer
That’s fair.
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MovieRob
I have to have time to sit and watch, you know, watch movies. Come on. That’s fair. Even easier back then.
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Agent Palmer
So I. I did want to ask, though, like, you know, I am, I’m, I’m amazed by your story. One, because I don’t know that I’ve ever felt that way. About a place.
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MovieRob
Come back, come back.
00:21:13:16 – 00:21:45:55
Agent Palmer
And two. I’m always. And I’ve said this before, I’m I’m I’m envious of those in more belief than I have. You know, my relationship with with Judaism is, what I will, I will I won’t say unique. It’s it’s obviously everybody’s relationship to their religion is unique to themselves. But I feel like I’ve met a lot of people who are, spiritually without practicing religious.
00:21:46:00 – 00:22:03:56
Agent Palmer
Okay. Which is what I would describe myself as, but I’m always envious of people who are not only spiritually, but practically religious, because it always feels, like you’re more committed. I just haven’t figured out how to take that step.
00:22:04:00 – 00:22:06:57
MovieRob
Okay? I mean, yeah.
00:22:07:02 – 00:22:20:35
Agent Palmer
I did you did did for for being in Israel for an extended period of time. Let’s fast forward five, ten years. Did it change your Judaism at all or your belief?
00:22:20:40 – 00:22:23:30
MovieRob
Did it change my belief?
00:22:23:35 – 00:22:25:08
Agent Palmer
You know, because, because, you know.
00:22:25:14 – 00:22:52:13
MovieRob
Okay, I understand the question. I’m trying to think of, you know, I think it helped strengthen it because, you know, when you, when you’re able to, to physically stand in places that you’ve read about, okay. And, and, you know, so, so you’re like, okay, well, this is my history. This, this is the building blocks of, of my religion, the building blocks of of of my beliefs.
00:22:52:17 – 00:23:06:05
MovieRob
So yeah, I it over the years, obviously it’s it’s strengthened me, you know, would would the same thing have happened if I was still in America? I don’t know that I could tell, you know, that. We’ll have to we’ll have to go have an alternate timeline to figure that one out.
00:23:06:10 – 00:23:08:46
Agent Palmer
Well, I’ll say definitely not to the same extent, I mean, because.
00:23:08:51 – 00:23:09:26
MovieRob
Necessarily.
00:23:09:28 – 00:23:41:05
Agent Palmer
Even even in my four months, you know, standing in the like, that’s the that’s the one piece of what I will call like the Jerusalem effect. And I think it, you know, because it is the, the Mecca for multiple religions, you can’t put a price or, a value on being there and being in those places as they’re written about.
00:23:41:05 – 00:24:10:16
Agent Palmer
It’s just not the same. And you can’t not be you, you can’t not be moved like, it just it’s just to some extent, like my, my grandmother, for example, not the most religious. My, my grandfather was Orthodox. My grandmother was me. Like, I feel like that’s the that on the scale, you know, my grandfather’s Orthodox, my grandmother’s brought me whatever.
00:24:10:31 – 00:24:17:28
Agent Palmer
But when she went, she would talk about, it changing her.
00:24:17:33 – 00:24:20:10
MovieRob
Okay.
00:24:20:15 – 00:24:27:15
Agent Palmer
And I again, I think it changed me. I just know once I, I don’t know how yet.
00:24:27:19 – 00:24:30:43
MovieRob
All right. You all. You still got time. So let me be 24 years.
00:24:30:48 – 00:24:34:12
Agent Palmer
It’s only been 24 years. I got I got plenty of time to figure it out.
00:24:34:17 – 00:24:36:54
MovieRob
Yeah, of course, you know.
00:24:36:58 – 00:24:43:02
Agent Palmer
But I did. I did want to ask. You chose to start a podcast?
00:24:43:07 – 00:24:44:23
MovieRob
Yes.
00:24:44:28 – 00:24:50:49
Agent Palmer
Why? You know, because. And I ask this because, like, I. Why, you know, I find the.
00:24:51:00 – 00:24:51:22
MovieRob
Cast.
00:24:51:22 – 00:25:11:16
Agent Palmer
Or. Why. Yeah. Why that podcast? No, I think it’s so. Why that podcast? I know you like movies, but, like, you could have done a a religious podcast. You could have done an Israeli, you know, in Israel from it. I mean, you’re an insider now, but like, you know, and there are there are many stories you have to tell.
00:25:11:30 – 00:25:36:14
Agent Palmer
I think these both of these episodes, you know, kind of I have an I idealized version of your story specifically, but there are more stories we’ve glossed over and skipped over and yeah, I, I’m only getting a surface of this, you know, you have all these stories. You don’t get to share them when you’re talking about Die Hard or It’s a Wonderful Life, necessarily.
00:25:36:14 – 00:25:37:58
MovieRob
No.
00:25:38:03 – 00:25:43:36
Agent Palmer
I guess why not? Like, why why focus on the movies instead of the the personal.
00:25:43:43 – 00:26:27:14
MovieRob
Okay. There’s, there’s, there’s two answers to that one. So first of all, I mean, I started, 11 years ago, my, my website where I was starting to review movies. Okay. You know, where the story in a nutshell of how that started was a friend of mine sent me a blog post that a friend of his had done, you know, talking about the fact that he had to get rid of all his, videotapes because because he had, like, rooms full of videotapes and, you know, this this was, you know, in 2013 or 2012, you know, and so his, you know, he had the I, I don’t remember if he was his girlfriend
00:26:27:14 – 00:26:48:34
MovieRob
at the time or whatever. You need to get rid of them. So he basically wrote a whole post about it, and he talked about the fact in that post that he keeps track of every movie that, that he watches, and sorry, every movie that he goes to in the theater. Okay, okay. And he, I’m actually still I’m I became friends with this guy ever since he, he still refuses to come on my podcast because he doesn’t have time.
00:26:48:49 – 00:27:10:06
MovieRob
But whatever the I still always give him the credit because he, he started me on, on my blog. But, you know, it just gave me an idea. I said, well, I’m watching movies all the time, you know, why don’t I give off to other people? You know, my knowledge of movies, but whether I recommend or not recommend movies that I’m watching already.
00:27:10:11 – 00:27:33:41
MovieRob
So that’s what started the podcast and the story that was started to start the the blog and, you know, I’ve been doing that blog now for 11 years. And depending on when this drops, you know, I have, 11,300, you know, movie reviews on there when, if you if you want to talk about just the unique ones.
00:27:33:46 – 00:27:45:17
MovieRob
So I have 9339, unique movies that that I, that I reviewed during that time. So it’s pretty, pretty prolific from that.
00:27:45:24 – 00:27:50:56
Agent Palmer
I would say prolific is, not I don’t know if that’s a big enough word, but we’ll go. We’ll go with.
00:27:50:59 – 00:28:10:20
MovieRob
Prolific and and again, if you take into consideration, then I have 2000 movies that I’ve watched over and over during the course of those years where I’ve done reviews them also. So I, I continue to do that. And through through that blog, I became friends with a lot of people in the blogosphere who have movie review, websites.
00:28:10:20 – 00:28:20:01
MovieRob
And I even became part of an organization, an online organization called The Lamb, which is the largest, association of of movie blogs.
00:28:20:06 – 00:28:21:04
Agent Palmer
Okay.
00:28:21:09 – 00:28:50:38
MovieRob
And I became really good friends with the the person who is in charge of it, Jake Wood and he a few years ago started telling me about the fact that he’s constantly listening to this, podcast called the Star Wars Minute. Right. And, okay, it, it was intriguing. The, the idea of, of listening to, you know, an analysis of a movie minute by minute, even I thought it was crazy at the time, and I said, okay.
00:28:50:38 – 00:29:01:40
MovieRob
And I started listening to episodes here and there, and, you know, if it’s a movie that you’ve seen and you enjoy, then it’s actually fascinating listening to people, discussing, you know, and I yeah.
00:29:01:40 – 00:29:29:07
Agent Palmer
I mean, I it’s the, it’s the, it’s the joy of being on your show and listening to your show is that I was as skeptical as everyone else going in like, what? Like, yeah. Well, exactly what could you possibly say about one minute of film? That’s. Well, you know, yeah. And look, I, I, I, I hit clean up for most of your seasons.
00:29:29:20 – 00:29:46:05
Agent Palmer
So I get the benefit of talking about the whole show. Yes, but I’ve done others, since, then, and it, you know, still, there’s a lot to go on in just one minute of film. That’s great. When you break it down, it’s it’s unique. Yeah.
00:29:46:05 – 00:30:11:31
MovieRob
So, so through the lamb over the last, over the few years before I started, you know, my own, my own podcast. So I was a guest on their show all the time. And we talk about movies and, you know, how much of things. And I always enjoyed it. It was so much fun talking about movies to other people, you know, sometimes having conversations most of the time, having conversations with other people who also are fans of the movie or sometimes not, you know, and you have these debates and things like that.
00:30:11:35 – 00:30:27:25
MovieRob
And for years after Jay told me that he, you know, was listening to Star Wars and that he himself was getting ready to start his own for the Deep Blue Sea movie from, 1999. And he kept saying, you got to do this. You got to do this. And I was like, man, I don’t have time for it.
00:30:27:25 – 00:30:57:40
MovieRob
I’m not going to be able to do it. You know, you know, familial commitments are not going to make it easy and stuff like that, like pushing it off. And I kept pushing it off. And I at one point came to a realization that, you know, where this, this, this whole thing comes from, you know, you, you, you wanted to know how it’s connected and why I’m not using my, you know, why not using this this forum, you know, to to to talk about, myself or my Judaism.
00:30:57:45 – 00:31:07:55
MovieRob
So I came to the realization that, I mean, have you ever, you probably haven’t studied, but have you ever heard how things are done in the Talmud?
00:31:08:00 – 00:31:09:01
Agent Palmer
Yes.
00:31:09:06 – 00:31:17:25
MovieRob
Okay. So yes, the basically the Talmud is a a a movie by minute podcast.
00:31:17:30 – 00:31:19:27
Agent Palmer
I guess you know what I.
00:31:19:32 – 00:31:20:28
MovieRob
And and.
00:31:20:31 – 00:31:28:21
Agent Palmer
Now that you say that, that makes a lot more sense. But yeah, I could see that.
00:31:28:26 – 00:31:59:31
MovieRob
And, and as as much as I enjoy studying, I obviously still enjoy movies a little bit more. And and I have more to say about movies. So I figured that, you know, when, when I finally, I guess you could say, broke down and decided I was going to do one of my own, it was, okay, I have what to say, you know, and like when I listen to any podcast, whether it’s your podcast or someone else’s, I want to listen to a podcast because they have something interesting and unique to say.
00:31:59:36 – 00:32:17:57
MovieRob
Not that someone’s rehashing the same things that other people have to say. So, you know, I, I and this goes back to what we were talking about in the first episode when, when we were talking about this is that, you know, it’s not my job in the world to convince you, Agent Palmer, that you need to be a better Jew.
00:32:18:02 – 00:32:19:07
Agent Palmer
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
00:32:19:12 – 00:32:42:48
MovieRob
But I can, give you insights into movies, and you might be a little bit more open to the fact, of of, you know, taking that information in. And I look at it from another perspective also that in some ways, I’m also, I’m doing some I’m doing PR for, for Israelis and Jews by, by by doing this, this podcast.
00:32:42:53 – 00:33:06:15
MovieRob
Because I have become, friends and, you know, I’ve been connected to so many different people from all the spectrums of, of religious, affiliations and also, all around the globe through this, you know, whether people are my guests or not. And, you know, every one of them. I’ve never hidden the fact that I’m Jewish.
00:33:06:28 – 00:33:42:50
MovieRob
I’ve never hidden the fact that I’m, you know, living in Israel. You know, I, I’ve never hidden the fact that people that on Shabbat, I will not be able to record, you know, and I mean it I’ve kept to that, you know, adamantly because that that’s my beliefs from that. Yeah. And you wouldn’t believe again, I know we don’t want to get into to politics and current events, but you you wouldn’t believe how many people that I’ve become friends with have sent me emails over the last six months, seven months, eight months, depending on this.
00:33:42:55 – 00:33:49:14
MovieRob
Extremist, you know, asking me if I’m okay, is my family okay? Or, you know, I’m.
00:33:49:14 – 00:33:49:52
Agent Palmer
One of them.
00:33:49:52 – 00:33:51:47
MovieRob
I know you are. I’m aware.
00:33:51:52 – 00:33:52:55
Agent Palmer
But. And it but.
00:33:52:55 – 00:34:03:01
MovieRob
I’ve had but I’ve, I’ve had a Catholic priest send me an email about that asking me about that. I mean, not I’m not comparing you to a Catholic priest, but.
00:34:03:01 – 00:34:31:52
Agent Palmer
No, but I will say, though, you did open my eyes to something. Because I had I had told you I think it when I think it was when we recorded, but, for for It’s a Wonderful Life. I had said I was thinking about reaching out and I didn’t, and you said, just do it, and I, I’ve, I’ve kind of taken that to heart since then, and I’ve, I now for, for better or worse.
00:34:31:56 – 00:34:37:54
Agent Palmer
And sometimes I reach out to you because it’s the worst of of what I read in the news. No, but.
00:34:37:54 – 00:34:45:53
MovieRob
Just the worst. But you still are looking. You want to make sure that that a a virtual friend of yours is okay.
00:34:45:58 – 00:34:47:01
Agent Palmer
And that’s the.
00:34:47:06 – 00:35:13:30
MovieRob
And there’s a connection again, there’s the connection between that. Because again, you as a Jew okay. Most most of my guests are not Jewish and they know nothing about Judaism. And I’m assuming that most of them have never even met a Jew in their life. Okay. It’s besides me. And again, not necessarily in person yet, you know, so for them to see that something happened in Israel and, and get in touch with me and ask, are you okay, what’s going on and stuff like that.
00:35:13:43 – 00:35:33:55
MovieRob
So it obviously warms my heart. And it also shows that, okay, here I’ve made a connection on, on a completely different level than I ever expected that I would be able to do. I mean, look at look at the, you know, the global, the global arena.
00:35:33:57 – 00:35:56:23
Agent Palmer
No, I get that. And I think it’s it, it’s it’s made me I’ve, I’ve since then, since that conversation, not only do I reach out to you a little bit more often, but I reach out to other people more often. And it’s just like the moment I’m thinking is somebody look, it takes less than 30s to go, hey, I hope you’re doing okay.
00:35:56:27 – 00:36:06:53
Agent Palmer
Like, and so I don’t I don’t waste the thoughts anymore based the thoughts. And I think that’s I think that’s the that’s the point. And I learned that from you because now I.
00:36:06:53 – 00:36:08:06
MovieRob
Don’t miss something here.
00:36:08:10 – 00:36:19:33
Agent Palmer
There you go. Because any time whether it’s texts or emails, it’s it’s 30s. Hey, I was thinking about you. I hope you’re doing well or whatever. Yeah.
00:36:19:37 – 00:36:20:00
MovieRob
That’s right.
00:36:20:01 – 00:36:31:57
Agent Palmer
It’s it. And and I owe that to you because you were like, you literally like you called me out on. There’s just some pre-show stuff and you’re like, well, why didn’t you?
00:36:32:02 – 00:36:32:43
MovieRob
Exactly.
00:36:32:48 – 00:36:37:12
Agent Palmer
It was like, I don’t I don’t have a good answer for that. No.
00:36:37:17 – 00:36:52:07
MovieRob
The question is, is, you know what? Why would you have been afraid? Because we were afraid to get an answer of me saying, screw you. I don’t want to talk to you. About what were you afraid of the fact that I would tell you that that things are terrible or whatever? Didn’t. Maybe. Maybe that’s what maybe you’re trying.
00:36:52:07 – 00:36:52:49
Agent Palmer
I don’t think I was.
00:36:52:52 – 00:36:59:03
MovieRob
Keep yourself, you know, insulated from the from from having to hear bad news. I don’t know.
00:36:59:07 – 00:37:03:28
Agent Palmer
I don’t know, I don’t either, but I’m I’m now taking that to heart more, and I appreciate that.
00:37:03:28 – 00:37:17:09
MovieRob
That’s a good thing. Sometimes it backfires on me, though when I do do that. And I’m not trying to say this to discourage you, but sometimes I will write to a friend that I haven’t written to in a long time and I’ll say, what’s going on? Hope everything’s okay by you and the write back to me and say, yeah, everything’s fine.
00:37:17:14 – 00:37:21:56
MovieRob
Why are you getting in touch with me? Like what? What’s going on? You need to get in touch with.
00:37:22:01 – 00:37:22:46
Agent Palmer
You know. What did I.
00:37:22:46 – 00:37:41:47
MovieRob
Miss? Is there something behind, you know, you know, behind this. But then, you know, I have other friends that that are so happy. They’re like, wow, I’m so glad you reached out to me. It’s been a while since we talked. You know?
00:37:41:52 – 00:38:09:59
Agent Palmer
So there you have it. Reach out to people, let them know you’re thinking about them. Like, actually do it. I’ve been doing it since this was recorded. It’s stupid how that one little change has transformed my email inbox. It was just updates, newsletters and notifications. And now on occasion, it’s a genuine communication. I’ve reached out to friends and former guests, acquaintances, anyone who I happen to be thinking of because it’s just that easy to do.
00:38:10:04 – 00:38:32:22
Agent Palmer
It’s not something that has to require a lot of time, though. You can put as much time or as little into the communication as you wish, but this is the humanity that seems to get lost in the internet shuffle. The internet was supposed to connect us as it has for Rob and I. It has for me and many others, and I encourage you to continue to use this tool for communication and connection.
00:38:32:27 – 00:38:53:39
Agent Palmer
Back in the late 1980s, AT&T had a tagline reach out and touch someone. Well, we should all strive to bring that back, shouldn’t we? It shouldn’t be reach out and troll someone or reach out and flex on someone. It should be that someone is genuinely touched that you took the time. And that’s exactly the spirit we need, perhaps now more than ever.
00:38:53:44 – 00:39:15:24
Agent Palmer
So reach out to someone. Use your email for genuine communication. You won’t be sad. You did. Thanks for listening to The Palmer Files episode 125. And now for the official business. The Palmer Files releases every two weeks on Tuesdays. If you’re still listening, I encourage you to join the discussion. You can find all related ways to contact Rob and myself in the show notes.
00:39:15:36 – 00:39:50:00
Agent Palmer
There you will find links to Rob’s relevant social channels, podcast and prolific website. The music for this episode was provided by Henno Heitur. Email can be sent to this show at The Palmer Files at gmail.com. And remember, you’re home for all things. Agent Palmer is Agent palmer.com.
00:39:50:04 – 00:40:17:36
Agent Palmer
See?
00:40:17:40 – 00:40:19:36
Agent Palmer
All right, Rob, do you have one final question for me?
00:40:19:39 – 00:40:38:11
MovieRob
Yes, I do, and this this is this is a question that I’ve been meaning to ask you for a very long time. Now. You know, I’ve listened to all your shows, and I went back and, and, you know, the first, I think like 40 episodes or something like that. I binged over the course of a few, a few weeks, remember, correctly.
00:40:38:16 – 00:41:02:56
MovieRob
And, you know, I always adamantly listen to everything that you said. And one of the things that whenever you talk about your Judaism, there was always something that you said that, that, that, that, that, that hit me and you talked about the fact that, you know, you need to find somebody at some point in your life who will help you, I guess, shine the light on you, to help you.
00:41:03:01 – 00:41:19:03
MovieRob
I guess I don’t know if the word is being me being more comfortable with your Judaism or just, you know, figuring out where it is that you want to go with your Judaism. And so my question and I know that you also you you’ve had on your show, rabbi, at least one rabbi. I think there’s only one.
00:41:19:03 – 00:41:42:15
MovieRob
Right? Right. Yeah. And Rabbi. That’s right. So the question is, is, you know, as of today, because again, these, you know, you talked about this, years ago. So the question is, as of today, is there something that you believe that, that you need in order to, you know, I guess, move deeper into your Judaism?
00:41:42:28 – 00:41:44:57
MovieRob
And is there anything I can do to help with that?
00:41:45:02 – 00:42:04:44
Agent Palmer
So I want to say no. Because my gut instinct is, tragedy is what turns people around, and I don’t and I don’t, I, you know what I mean? Like, I don’t I don’t want to invite that, you know, as I knock on wood, but I think it’s, but.
00:42:04:44 – 00:42:06:16
MovieRob
It doesn’t need to be.
00:42:06:21 – 00:42:43:45
Agent Palmer
No, it doesn’t need to be. And I also think it’s similar to, when I, when I was in Jerusalem and I was, it was the, the probably the most study I’ve done of, not only biblical Judaism, but traditional and, you know, religious Judaism that I, that I’ve ever undertaken really. And part of it is being there and being open to it, but that being open to it part, I don’t think was just because I was there.
00:42:43:45 – 00:43:12:16
Agent Palmer
I think at that time in my life I was questioning a lot of things. Okay, I think I need to get, for better or worse, I need to get back to a place where I’m questioning things and I think I’m I think I’m on the precipice. As we talk right now of trying to figure out where I want to be, which is I don’t know if it’s different than where I am because I don’t know where I want to be.
00:43:12:20 – 00:43:40:49
Agent Palmer
So maybe I’ve already arrived. Who knows? Okay. But I think that it is. It it’s probably, you know, the second part was, is there anything you can do? I think just being friends is enough. And I only say that because, my parents have not lost faith. I won’t say that, but we’re. None of the three of us are a part of a congregation.
00:43:40:54 – 00:43:56:54
Agent Palmer
So we’ve lost the community aspect of Judaism, and some of that comes from moving around, admittedly, and some of it comes from really stupid shit with local congregations and rabbis coming in and out and, and any number of things.
00:43:56:56 – 00:44:01:16
MovieRob
Okay, you don’t have a problem driving further.
00:44:01:20 – 00:44:23:59
Agent Palmer
Well, it’s the it’s not the, the it’s not the driving further part. It’s just for some reason, I don’t know. Look, it was either a really good rabbi or a really bad rabbi who said, you know, it might have been it might have been a discussion somewhere along the way as well. I’m pretty sure it was with a rabbi, though.
00:44:24:03 – 00:44:53:53
Agent Palmer
There was like, And I think this might have been when I was like 12 because it would have been a camp rabbi, maybe, because I asked the question about, like, I went I went to a Jewish summer camp where, there were, I don’t know, four chapels or four different places where you could potentially have a prayer depending on the weather, like there was an outdoor one in the woods.
00:44:53:53 – 00:45:18:40
Agent Palmer
There was an indoor one. There was an outdoor one that was in a it was a hot. But I think it got into a point where we, you know, we got into a discussion of, of religious Judaism as and sanctuaries as a place of worship. And it was, you know, a thing of like, not taking attendance. And as long as you have a minion, you can do it wherever you want.
00:45:18:45 – 00:45:20:35
MovieRob
That’s right.
00:45:20:40 – 00:45:59:01
Agent Palmer
And you fast forward from that, which I learned at ten. Maybe it would have been that discussion to, my favorite rabbi in the rabbi, who I was, bar mitzvahed by, and who helped me go to Israel, talking about the fact that even if you’re not a part of a congregation and you’re never a part of a minion ever again, there will be times in your life when picking up a prayer book will be the right thing to do.
00:45:59:06 – 00:46:23:13
Agent Palmer
And that may not be every Friday night, and it may not be every Saturday morning. But there will come a time when you will go, I’m ready for this. And that sticks with me in the back of my head. So when you ask this question, I don’t know when that’s going to be, but I feel like as I get older I’m approaching that.
00:46:23:20 – 00:46:23:51
MovieRob
Okay.
00:46:23:56 – 00:46:51:47
Agent Palmer
Is it tomorrow, the next month? The next year? The next decade? I don’t know, but it feels like I’m somehow growing into my, Judaism. And, you know, I don’t know any other way to state it other than, you know, at some point I will pick it up and look, I’ve in the in the interest of full disclosure, after I’ve, I’m in my mid 20s, I moved back.
00:46:51:49 – 00:47:23:25
Agent Palmer
I’m, it’s after college. I’m living with my parents again. I took it upon myself to build my own personal Shabbat service, for lack of a better term. I took what I had learned that made a service a service, the structure of the prayers, the prayers that are optional, the prayers that are mandatory. And I built myself, I, and I have to find.
00:47:23:30 – 00:47:26:22
MovieRob
That was my next question. Do you have it? I would love to see it.
00:47:26:22 – 00:47:48:15
Agent Palmer
I have it somewhere. I do have it somewhere. In fact, I think I know where the folder is, but I built this service based on, the guitar basically, because, you know, we’ve turned the the Reform Jews have turned every prayer, from the most holy to the most frivolous into a song.
00:47:48:20 – 00:47:57:00
MovieRob
Not just not just the Reformed Jews. You have many there are Orthodox that do it also, you don’t necessarily need a guitar for it. So that’s like.
00:47:57:00 – 00:47:57:30
Agent Palmer
Okay, I.
00:47:57:41 – 00:48:19:48
MovieRob
Can’t use the guitar on Shabbat, so you know, you can’t, but you can still sing. I mean, come on, as as I’m sure you know, on Shabbat meals, people, you know, sit around the table, they sing and they’re say, you know, when when you’re in synagogue, there are a lot of songs that are sung. If you want, I can even send you YouTube videos that you can see of these songs if you’re if you’re interested, you know, but.
00:48:19:48 – 00:48:22:16
Agent Palmer
But I, I built the service for myself.
00:48:22:17 – 00:48:23:46
MovieRob
Okay.
00:48:23:51 – 00:48:51:40
Agent Palmer
And, and I this was in my mid 20s and I, I have since and I, I wish I could bottle this up I there a since been Friday nights where I where I do pull it out and I run through the service and I built three of them. I built a, I built a 18 minute service, a 30 minute service, and a one hour service, depending on either how much time I had, what was going on or whatever.
00:48:51:45 – 00:49:10:27
Agent Palmer
And I think I, I also did a half dollar service for ending it on Saturday night as well. I, I never, I don’t know if I ever I think I built one Saturday morning, one that was about 25 minutes. Anyway, the point is, I can get back. I should pull that out and get back to that.
00:49:10:27 – 00:49:14:52
Agent Palmer
I think it’s a start. I don’t know, but I do know that.
00:49:14:57 – 00:49:15:40
MovieRob
You don’t know what?
00:49:15:40 – 00:49:16:57
Agent Palmer
It’s always on the periphery and.
00:49:17:10 – 00:49:19:52
MovieRob
You don’t know if that’s a start. It definitely is a start.
00:49:19:57 – 00:49:37:33
Agent Palmer
I think getting back, but getting back to it would be a start because I feel like I’ve, I’ve kind of been in this limbo where it’s just been in a, a folder for a while. Like I haven’t pulled it out in a while. But I think that that’s a start. Reading some of the books in my house is a start.
00:49:37:38 – 00:50:09:05
Agent Palmer
I, I, I do want to get back in touch with it for, for no other reason than Judaism is a religion that in my bones not only feels right to me, but feels predicated on the question of why, which is, a central question in my life as a whole. Because I’m never comfortable with just any answer or even, answer.
00:50:09:10 – 00:50:23:38
Agent Palmer
And I think that that’s that’s why, we study. Correct. And it’s why we keep reading that stuff over and over and over again. And it’s because we’re never satisfied with the knowledge.
00:50:23:47 – 00:50:24:00
MovieRob
Because.
00:50:24:00 – 00:50:25:21
Agent Palmer
We can always get more.
00:50:25:26 – 00:50:37:58
MovieRob
And always goes with that. With the old joke, you know, that, you know, whenever you ask you a question, you’ll be the response will be another question, you know, because, yeah, I mean, it’s there aren’t absolute answers to so many things.
00:50:38:03 – 00:50:51:52
Agent Palmer
Yeah, I and I, I feel like that I, I’ve probably been on this journey like like getting there and getting there. I think I’m much closer now than I ever was to getting back.
00:50:52:07 – 00:51:00:21
MovieRob
Well, you know, the way that it works is that every day that you get older, you get closer to something. So you’re just you’re getting closer anyway.
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